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I adore Zimerman's playing of Chopin and Schubert on youtube but I was kind of disappointed to find out at least this video is edited: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR7eUSFsn28quote: "The best performance of this piece I ever seen. Zimerman is my favorite! Nevertheless, this video has been edited. Look at the different stool at 3:30 in respect to the one at 8:25, then back to the first stool at 8:42 cut&paste! a bit disappointed but still a great performance(s)!" Different chair, so it has to consist of different takes. Maybe some of the others are edited as well. Gives me a slightly different perspective. His playing is still great of course, but I guess not as inhumanly perfect as I thought.
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Good catch, but no surprise. Its a recording, so you can expect there will be editing. Obviously with video you have to maintain visual continuity as well as the audio and they evidently weren't to careful with the former in this one!
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Yes, just a bit disappointing. But still, awesomeness is awesomeness.
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An actual 'musical chairs' piece!
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I wouldn't go to say that editing is exactly cheating, but i think it should not happen in classical music. Sure other perople will have other takes on thi`s, like Gould, but i just don´t think it's fair.
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An actual 'musical chairs' piece!
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I love how you made the conclusion based on something so subtle. I made this conclusion long ago because the camera angles change so rapidly even though you can't see any other cameras in room. Notice how EVERY camera-angle change is at a point where there is a moment of consistency in the piece such as one chord or a little break so it is easier to edit it together. I think there are 20+ cuts in the Ballade in G minor.
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I wouldn't go to say that editing is exactly cheating, but i think it should not happen in classical music. Sure other perople will have other takes on thi`s, like Gould, but i just don´t think it's fair. Speaking of Gould recordings, here's an interesting set of recording studio audio archives. Scroll down to the bottom and see the section on the Brahms Ballades and Rhapsodies. http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/glenngould/028010-700-e.htmlEnjoy, Jonathan
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Thanks Jonathan, that's a great link. I'm at work no but i will definitely listen to those later at home.
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Enjoy. I found them recently while looking for recordings of the Brahms Op 79, No 2. Its interesting to hear Gould starting/stopping, slow practicing sections, chatting with the guy in the studio, etc.
I actually haven't heard the final Gould recording that was presumably stitched together from these tapes. In any case, I definitely prefer the Agerich and Van Cliburn recordings much better than what I heard here.
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I suspect during the recording, he signaled for another seat with a height adjustment (one signal for raise, another for lower), and while the camera was on his upper body only, a technician quickly rolled out another seat. The timing of a quick butt lift to jam in the new seat is as effortless as a pit stop during a car race.
This happens all the time.
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Perhaps Gould's insistence on his old chair wasn't so eccentric after all. In his genius, he anticipated youtube and piano world forums and couldn't bear the thought of us discussing the "stitches" in his video recordings instead of the music. ;-)
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I suspect during the recording, he signaled for another seat with a height adjustment (one signal for raise, another for lower), and while the camera was on his upper body only, a technician quickly rolled out another seat. The timing of a quick butt lift to jam in the new seat is as effortless as a pit stop during a car race.
This happens all the time. lol
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