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#1166338 - 03/21/09 11:52 AM H. F. Miller Artist Bench  
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I have a client with a H. F. Miller piano

www.ejbuckpiano.com/Miller.html

At the bottom of the page are 2 photo's of an antique bench.

First like it I have ever seen....

Any here know of benches like this from the 1880's ???

Thanks,
Larry


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#1166343 - 03/21/09 12:01 PM Re: H. F. Miller Artist Bench [Re: Larry Buck]  
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That is an Edwin Brown action, is it not?


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#1166345 - 03/21/09 12:04 PM Re: H. F. Miller Artist Bench [Re: BDB]  
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BDB,

Thanks, I don't know the maker of the action. What do you know about it?


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#1166346 - 03/21/09 12:07 PM Re: H. F. Miller Artist Bench [Re: Larry Buck]  
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As far as I know, they were only used by Chickering and Henry Miller. There are a lot of old Edwin Brown action Chickerings, and there may actually be parts available for them somewhere.


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#1166349 - 03/21/09 12:19 PM Re: H. F. Miller Artist Bench [Re: BDB]  
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The piano has been in the family since new and well cared for. As the Parents are getting older they are deciding on where things are going.

They have asked for an appraisal and information.
Kids are interested in keeping as much family history as they can.

Anything helps.

Thank You



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#1166350 - 03/21/09 12:31 PM Re: H. F. Miller Artist Bench [Re: Larry Buck]  
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Interesting that the piano is 88 notes and overstrung, full plate ... single escapement action.


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#1166453 - 03/21/09 04:01 PM Re: H. F. Miller Artist Bench [Re: Larry Buck]  
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Interesting discovery Larry, the legs on the instrument are almost the same as the square grand I have here in a corner. Especially the bell shaped bottom of the leg that hides to castor, a very nice cabinet.

On the bench, I have never seen one, and I would be cautious about refinishing that one. It could de-value it quite a bit…. I have a couple of unusual ones here I have left in original condition, and found out later it was a wise decision.

Schaff may have a source for parts on that action. I found they had the unusual brass flanges for the Chickering I did here 2 yrs. ago. But that one was a double escapement……

Up this way I have never had a chance to view a Henry Miller instrument. Looks like a quality build in its day from what I can see in the photos. Yes it is interesting to see the instrument with the modern design and then the old action design to run it with. I have seen a number of English pianos like that over the years.....


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#1166661 - 03/22/09 01:20 AM Re: H. F. Miller Artist Bench [Re: Silverwood Pianos]  
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The Edwin Brown is a double escapement action. There is a spring on the piece between the jack and the hammer shank that makes it a double escapement.


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#1166667 - 03/22/09 01:39 AM Re: H. F. Miller Artist Bench [Re: BDB]  
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Nice gate leg table!the bench & action that are sitting on it also helps make room for more piano space or parts!

Last edited by Gregl; 03/22/09 01:42 AM. Reason: typo
#1166714 - 03/22/09 07:51 AM Re: H. F. Miller Artist Bench [Re: BDB]  
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Originally Posted by BDB
The Edwin Brown is a double escapement action. There is a spring on the piece between the jack and the hammer shank that makes it a double escapement.


Thanks BDB, Do you have a recommendation for finding out more on Edwin Brown?


"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
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#1166716 - 03/22/09 07:54 AM Re: H. F. Miller Artist Bench [Re: Larry Buck]  
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BDB,

BTW, this thread and your comments are already a #3 return on a Goggle search ....

Frank deserves a standing O


"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
Mark Twain

E. J. Buck & Sons
Lowell MA 01852
978 458 8688
www.ejbuckpiano.com
http://www.facebook.com/EJBuckPerformances
#1166724 - 03/22/09 08:33 AM Re: H. F. Miller Artist Bench [Re: Larry Buck]  
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Very interesting piano and bench. I particularly like the antique dust bunny peeking out from under the keys...

Thanks for the info on Edwin Brown, BDB. Here's an interesting link that might prove useful.

Edwin Brown Information http://www.geocities.com/threesixesinarow/browna.htm

I looked at one like Dan described not so long ago: brass flanges and double escapement.

Last edited by Dave Stahl; 03/22/09 08:42 AM.

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#1166733 - 03/22/09 09:07 AM Re: H. F. Miller Artist Bench [Re: Dave Stahl]  
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Just looking at the action again, the bass hammers are double stapled..

FWIW, The family has no plans to rebuild or refinish anything. At the moment we are documenting the history. I will be back to the piano to take more comprehensive photo's with better light.
I might also bring the action to the shop to clean and photograph.

I still think the bench is unusual ...

Last edited by Larry Buck; 03/22/09 09:17 AM. Reason: Grammar

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
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E. J. Buck & Sons
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978 458 8688
www.ejbuckpiano.com
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