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Re: Do you perform at your studio recitals? [Re: TimR] #1161915
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Re: Do you perform at your studio recitals? [Re: TimR] #1163309
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When I was taking lessons my piano teacher always performed a memorzied piece at the recital. Her feeling was that if she expected her students to perform, she should perform a memorized piece as well. The spring recital was a themed recital, i.e. Broadway movies, duets, going to the circus, a visit to the zoo, Disney movies, etc. and she would perform a piece that matched that theme. Her piece was always very appropriate for the audience and the situation. Nothing extremely virtuosic, etc. but it was just really nice to get to hear her play as well.

Re: Do you perform at your studio recitals? [Re: smanning] #1163328
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One of the advantages of having played the piano your students played upon is that you will know exactly the ease or difficulty the students experienced when they sat on the bench.

Sometimes I've been horrified at the electrical cords running around the piano and the books the church pianist left on the floor, and the impediments that you find when checking out the piano. I always think to do that first thing before anyone has arrived. To adjust the blinds where the sun will be coming in the window in about 30 minutes. All those little things that make you wince when they happen because it's avoidable with a little "policing".

I'm performing KP duty from the time I get to the recital place until the last person has left. So "performing" isn't always about the piano and it's music...it's sometimes being the manager of the team and the coach on the sidelines.

Regardless, you are still pretty prominent. You can't hide!

Might as well sit down and share some music since they all know you're in the "house" and here with your musical family.

So "performing" in a different definition would make me say, "Yes" I perform at our piano recitals.

Re: Do you perform at your studio recitals? [Re: Betty Patnude] #1163475
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As a performer/teacher who encourages my students to embrace any opportunity to perform (by choice of course), I would think it hypocrytical if I didn't perform at recitals...I like to live by example...:)

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Re: Do you perform at your studio recitals? [Re: lotuscrystal] #1163535
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Being on the giving and receiving end of this question, I'd have to say when I had a teacher perform at a recital for the students, I felt quite a bit "upstaged." If a teacher wants to throw their own recital and have students attend, that's great. Then it's their recital and not their student's time to shine.

As a teacher, I've always performed at my studio recitals, but as an accompanist or a duet partner when someone backed out. My students get to hear me play, sometimes some rather difficult accompaniments. It is not a double standard, in my opinion. When I am performing my own recitals, then they can see me playing or singing memorized pieces.


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Re: Do you perform at your studio recitals? [Re: Morodiene] #1163950
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Upstaged by your teacher?...seriously...how can one be 'upstaged' by one's teacher? One's teacher is a forum for not only guidance, but inspiration...They are the magician and the scientist and the master of philanthropy in each of their student's experiences of music...upstaging isn't part of that equation.

This has really got me puzzled.

Of course, I wouldn't recommend the teacher launch into some obscurely known 3 movement sonata, but sheesh...wouldn't it be nice for the teacher, at the end of their student's recital, to address the crowd, speak to them on how awesome the student's performances have been, and then introduce them to a well-known piano piece that they can enjoy and the students can gain inspiration from seeing you perform?....for free?...

Upstaging happens amongst peers...not amongst mentors...lol

As his piano student, I was always grateful to see Antonin Kubalek (Glenn Gould's prodigy) perform at any of his student's recitals...I never felt 'over-shadowed'...lol..so funny to think such a thing.

He led by example...as so should you.
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Re: Do you perform at your studio recitals? [Re: lotuscrystal] #1163994
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As I wrote early on:

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What is the purpose of your studio recitals? To showcase your students' progress? To showcase your talents? To motivate students? To educate students & parents in piano lit? Do you play for your students in other settings? Does (community) have piano recitals you can have your students attend?

This topic has come up predictably about every 8 months and generally generates a lot of heat. If you search the archives, you will find plenty of opinion going both ways.

I personally choose not to, although there are times I am tempted.


Thus far, we've had a total rehash of all the previous reasons offered why/why not teachers should perform. It appears that those teachers who want a performing venue are going to perform at their students' recital, and those teachers who want the focus entirely on their students are not going to perform.

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(Teachers) are the magician and the scientist and the master of philanthropy in each of their student's experiences of music...upstaging isn't part of that equation.


that expressly enumerates why teachers should perform for students both at lessons and in monthly group lessons, where we can also spend time teaching students performance demeanor.


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Re: Do you perform at your studio recitals? [Re: John v.d.Brook] #1164017
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Besides all the purposes that one might list as desirable, there is always the idea that I am trying to present an event that is enjoyable in it's music, and that there is enough relaxation among everyone present, that we will have a mannerly, and warm support group for all participants.

I believe it's a social event as much as it is anything else.

It we aren't glad we came, and didn't enjoy it this time, there is no reason to come back for a next time.

I think one of the things that is most a surprize in recitals is, the students have greatly improved since last time, and that in itself is a joy.

I like to support my students by being in it with them just enough to show this lady still has something to teach me. And, I think they value anything I say to them more so when they know I lead by example. I've been there, done that.

I treat my guests as though we are all an interconnected family, we support every participant not just the one we came with.

At the same time, I planned the music program and taught it as though I'm in a professional in music education service and a business person taking care of all the expenses and deductions, and finally, at the event, I'm the teacher, in charge, but also the social event planner and hostess.

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