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Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? #643863
01/27/09 01:46 PM
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I am looking for a gently used, complete Randy Potter Piano Tunning course. If anyone has one, or knows of one for sale please let me know!

Thanks for your help in advance!

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Re: Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? #643864
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Jonmar:

Just curious: Why do you want to learn to tune pianos, and why do you think you will be able to?


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Re: Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? [Re: UnrightTooner] #1157613
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Originally Posted by UnrightTooner
Jonmar:

Just curious: Why do you want to learn to tune pianos, and why do you think you will be able to?


That was a very interesting response to a very simple question.

Re: Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? [Re: Aaron M.] #1157651
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The negatives: Used Potter courses are likely to be incomplete and possibly outdated. If the person did any or all of it, some or all of the test sections will be missing. Plus, you won't have the critiques of your tunings available from Randy. And you won't receive any updates or support.

The positives: Plenty of good info in there.


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Re: Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? [Re: Dave Stahl] #1157659
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Dave,
that's what a good reply should look like smile I wasn't the one asking the original question but I benefited from your thorough answer. Are you at all familiar with the American School Of Piano Tuning home study course? (wow that's a mouth full)
It can be found here www.piano-tuning.com
It's a little cheaper than Randy's course, but I don't care about saving a little $ if the course isn't as thorough.

Thanks again for responding to Jonmar's question.

Re: Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? [Re: Aaron M.] #1157671
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Even if you purchased both course for almost $3500.00, this money would be recovered in the first 50( charged for) tunings.

There is plenty of information available on piano repair,both at the library and through courses like these ones.

Some people benefit from taking educational courses in this fashion and you might be one of them. When studying on your own how you benefit and what you learn from the courses is up to you. I would tend to agree with Dave on this one, purchasing a second-hand course, you could not be certain that the course is complete and might be somewhat dated. Also the good point of having an instructor check your learning.


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Re: Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? [Re: Aaron M.] #1157794
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Originally Posted by Aaron M.
Dave,
that's what a good reply should look like smile I wasn't the one asking the original question but I benefited from your thorough answer. Are you at all familiar with the American School Of Piano Tuning home study course? (wow that's a mouth full)
It can be found here www.piano-tuning.com
It's a little cheaper than Randy's course, but I don't care about saving a little $ if the course isn't as thorough.

Thanks again for responding to Jonmar's question.


No problem.

I am not terribly familiar with the American School's course, but I think this thread has come up before. Others here have taken it. From what I understand (second hand info, mind you) it isn't quite as thorough as Randy's. I don't know what the price difference is.

One thing I would make certain to get is an action model or two. Both grand and upright would be good.



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Re: Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? [Re: Dave Stahl] #1157801
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Ok,I'll be sure to find an action model before I get started with all the studying. Thanks again for your help.

Re: Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? [Re: Aaron M.] #1157804
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Aaron, if your serious about learning, get thee to the nearest PTG chapter.


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Re: Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? [Re: JDelmore] #1157808
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I live in the Cincinnati OH area, how would I go about getting in touch with my local PTG chapter? PTG.org?

Re: Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? [Re: Aaron M.] #1157814
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Nevin Essex is the president of the Cincinnati chapter. Give him a call!! 314-1849

(Yes, I got that from ptg.org!! You can begin the process there, I think, with downloadable membership app.)

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Re: Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? [Re: JDelmore] #1157846
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Excellent, I'll give him a call. Thanks!

Re: Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? [Re: Aaron M.] #1157876
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Hi Aaron,

I have never had any first hand experience with either correspondence course, so all I can relate to you is what I have read and heard.

The Randy Potter Course is more comprehensive than the American course, probably why it's more expensive. There are some posters here who took the American course, so maybe they will see this and chime in.

There have been some previous posts, though quite a while ago, that did not recommend the American correspondence course.

JD offers excellent advice. Contact the local chapter, join, get involved.
You will likely find a mentor, and the Potter course highly recommends students find a mentor.

Best of luck to you.


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Re: Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? [Re: Ron Alexander] #1157882
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Thanks for the advice Ron!

Re: Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? [Re: Aaron M.] #1157985
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I am not partial to any on-line or distant learning course. But when I see that one of 10 chapters of the Amercan course is devoted to square grands, I get the feeling that may this course was concieved before I was and that it may be time for a curriculum overhaul... Can you spell outdated?

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[quote=Supply]is devoted to square grands, I get the feeling that may this course was concieved before I was and that it may be time for a curriculum overhaul...[Linked Image]




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Re: Does anyone want to sell thier Randy Potter course? [Re: Dave Stahl] #1158341
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Good point Supply


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