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Re: Steinway Boston vs. Yamaha #201900
08/28/08 03:04 AM
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Originally posted by Cassandra:

One step up from the entry level piano, it seems, are some that I am interested in, namely the Boston UP-118E and the Yamaha U1.

I have heard that Yamaha pianos may not be as well constructed today as they were 20 years ago, and that some of the current pricing is inflated due to their unique marketing costs. Are there any facts substantiating any of these?
I would consider both pianos a serious step up from entry-level. The comment about the quality of construction in the Yamaha is a total lie. The pricing being inflated is possibly an issue with both pianos: Yamaha is a well-known trusted brand, and Boston is associated with Steinway (where things are never inexpensive). I have always been pretty partial to the U1: I had to learn my final doctoral recital on one not too long ago, and it held up to hours upon hours of being thrashed with the Rachmaninoff Sonata #2 surprisingly well. It will handle a 5-year old beginner just fine!

Of course, there are other brands worth consideration in your price range (though harder to find) if you want to venture into good-quality lesser known makers. Some of them are more musically interesting, but resale would be more difficult because they are not names that everyone knows...


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Re: Steinway Boston vs. Yamaha #201901
08/29/08 03:14 PM
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There are some good comments here so far, but I should add that although the Yamie U1, Boston 118, and Kawai verts. are marketed at similar price points, there are different designs between them, therefore different, if not better or worse, performance.

IMHO, the Boston 118E would be at the bottom of my list simply because I have seen them age in an institutional situation. They seem to be built to compete more with Yamies T series than their U series.

Between the larger Kawai K series and the Yamaha U series, I say choose the one you love.

One thought - Jordang mentioned the Walter piano, which has a warmer sound and higher build quality throughout. Because of the present global economic situation they may be found for about the same as a Yamie U1. They are worth a gander. smile

Good Luck with your choice,


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Re: Steinway Boston vs. Yamaha #201902
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Rich:

How much is a 'gander'?

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Re: Steinway Boston vs. Yamaha #201903
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Norbert,

An American gander is the same as a Canadian look-see. laugh

Re: Steinway Boston vs. Yamaha #201904
09/01/08 02:32 AM
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Rich:

How much is a 'gander'?

Norbert whome
Oh, about the same as a good old fashion 'goose.' laugh

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Re: Steinway Boston vs. Yamaha [Re: Barbara G] #1156919
03/04/09 01:12 AM
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Before you invest so much money on an instrument for your daughter you may want to understand more about why she is struggling. The most important things to learn during the first 6 months would be how to read music, the names of the notes on the staff, how to find those notes on the piano and how to read rhythm. None of this requires a $10,000 piano although having a fine instrument certainly would not hurt. I would suggest looking at instruments at a lower price point, including used pianos (but not too old) from reputable dealers. In the meantime you might want to understand why she is struggling. There are any number of possible reasons, maybe she feels under pressure to learn too quickly, maybe her teacher is pushing her too hard or maybe she finds it harder to perform in front of other people.

As she gets older and starts playing faster and more technical passages having a high end instrument will make a big difference but for a five year old there are many less expensive instruments that could work just as well.

Re: Steinway Boston vs. Yamaha [Re: Chris G] #1157010
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From my limited experience, I've been very UNimpressed with Boston pianos.....or Boston piano, to be exact. An old friend bought a Boston baby grand, and I couldn't wait to try it out since it was associated with Steinway. An incredible disappointment. My Knabe studio upright actually sounded better, and was easier to play. And my restored Sohmer grand has a depth of tone that the Boston couldn't even approach.

Re: Steinway Boston vs. Yamaha [Re: dglo] #1157217
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To LHB - regarding your questions, I suggest a new thread of your own (but research what others have posted first by using the search function).

To Cassandra: I owned a U1 for 10 years until late last year - it served me VERY well, and was a satisfying musical instrument. There is no substance to any claim that Yamaha better quality instruments 20 years ago - such an idiotic statement can only be made by two types of individuals:
1) Someone trying to sell you a used Yamaha
2) Someone trying to get you to forget a new Yamaha


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Re: Steinway Boston vs. Yamaha [Re: Jeff Bauer] #1157240
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Re: Steinway Boston vs. Yamaha [Re: Horowitzian] #1157280
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Awwwww.... dang it. I am usually so good at avoiding that trap too..


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