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#1151736 - 02/08/09 03:48 AM A strings piece I'm working on for a friends game  
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Hey there everyone. I'm working on a strings piece for a video game my friend is designing right now. This piece will be for when you're exploring the map in a somewhat foresty area and you feel there could be some sort of trouble near.
I'm no where near done with it, I need to add more dynamics to it, I've added very little right now. I also plan to add probably another 2-3 minutes at least. But I want some feedback. So far I'm really liking it.
I'm not gonna post the score since I don't think you guys really need it right now, I just want some general critiquing.
I also still need to tweak the sounds in Reason more, right now I've just put them into the program with no tweaking except a little bit of volume editing.
Foe general info, the piece is in Gm and is in 5/4 time.
Thanks!
http://www.4shared.com/file/85021443/e837be00/_2__Mastersword_Strings.html


Chopin: Nocturne No. 15 in Fm. Op. 55 no.1.
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#1151737 - 02/09/09 12:22 AM Re: A strings piece I'm working on for a friends game  
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9 downloads and no replies?
Any constructive criticism for me on how to improve?


Chopin: Nocturne No. 15 in Fm. Op. 55 no.1.
#1151738 - 02/09/09 12:14 PM Re: A strings piece I'm working on for a friends game  
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I'd change the file format for a smaller file size. 14 megs is way too big for a two minute sound file.

Also, is it going to be looped or morphed to or from another song? If so, you'll need a way to handle that.

The music itself is fine, although I'd see if you can get a more legato sound from the strings. (I'm not sure how to do this in Reason's sampler, but I do know it's possible.) I'd also engineer the sound for a little more stereo separation and reverb. It's a little too "present." It also sounds like all the parts are pretty much center and at the same dynamic level. Some dynamic contrast within the parts may help as well.

So to summarize:

1) File size

2) Morphing/Looping Considerations

3) Legato Articulation

4) Dynamics, both in terms of phrasing and in terms of balance between the voices

5) Stereo separation and a little reverb


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#1151739 - 02/09/09 02:21 PM Re: A strings piece I'm working on for a friends game  
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Originally posted by Kreisler:
I'd change the file format for a smaller file size. 14 megs is way too big for a two minute sound file.

Also, is it going to be looped or morphed to or from another song? If so, you'll need a way to handle that.

The music itself is fine, although I'd see if you can get a more legato sound from the strings. (I'm not sure how to do this in Reason's sampler, but I do know it's possible.) I'd also engineer the sound for a little more stereo separation and reverb. It's a little too "present." It also sounds like all the parts are pretty much center and at the same dynamic level. Some dynamic contrast within the parts may help as well.

So to summarize:

1) File size

2) Morphing/Looping Considerations

3) Legato Articulation

4) Dynamics, both in terms of phrasing and in terms of balance between the voices

5) Stereo separation and a little reverb
Thanks for the tips. My friend who's a sound guy is gonna come over and help me get everything balanced and sounding good. Right now I have about 2 minutes and 15 seconds of music and it's at a place where there's a good solid end that could be fairly easily looped again or switched into another track.

I've added some dynamics now, but the Violin isn't crescendoing right in reason. Do you know how to make the crescendos sound any better? Right now it's just kind of jumping in volumes when I want a gradual build.
I want to go through and add some slurs as well and of course marking phrases.
I'll work on file size in a little, this one's even bigger since there's an added 45 seconds, but here's the "finished" version. By finished I mean I still need to balance the sounds, possible rework the chords in one section, and mark out my phrases.
http://www.4shared.com/get/85188018/f97fbf9f/_3__Mastersword_Strings.html


Chopin: Nocturne No. 15 in Fm. Op. 55 no.1.
#1151740 - 02/09/09 04:02 PM Re: A strings piece I'm working on for a friends game  
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File size should be easy enough. Just export mp3 or ogg or something.


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#1151741 - 02/10/09 07:44 AM Re: A strings piece I'm working on for a friends game  
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Seriously, if you want people to listen to your audio files, make them mp3s. Converting to mp3 should take you no longer than 10 seconds (and it'll make your uploading ten times faster). By posting wavs, you ask people to spend 10 times more time than necessary downloading your music. I'm not going to bother downloading 23MB for this one...

#1151742 - 02/10/09 02:48 PM Re: A strings piece I'm working on for a friends game  
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Okay, here's an MP3 version. I didn't know that Wav's were inherently larger files, I thought they were similar to MP3.
http://www.4shared.com/file/87032163/6480891e/_3__Mastersword_Strings.html
Sorry.


Chopin: Nocturne No. 15 in Fm. Op. 55 no.1.
#1151743 - 02/12/09 07:42 AM Re: A strings piece I'm working on for a friends game  
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wma is similar to mp3. Just a reminder.


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#1151744 - 02/12/09 01:01 PM Re: A strings piece I'm working on for a friends game  
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Well MP3 is more versatile, if the person didn't have WMP then opening a wma file would be hard, :p .


Chopin: Nocturne No. 15 in Fm. Op. 55 no.1.

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