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#1137009 - 09/01/05 12:11 PM Riff Decoder  
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I'm looking for a device that will easily and cheaply slow down the music, allowing you to pick apart complex passages. I know there are old tools out there that do this by slowing a cassette by one-half speed (1/2 speed will preserve key, albeit, one octave lower). Supposedly there are newer, digital products that will allow varied decreases in speed while preserving pitch.

Anyone familiar with or using such devises that can provide some input? I found one such product but would like to see other options (http://www.sabine.com/newsite/liveapps/ibktraka.htm)

Thanks!

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#1137010 - 09/02/05 01:33 PM Re: Riff Decoder  
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Hi there! I bought one online called 'Slowgold' software (on sale for about $40.00) and it does what you're talking about. It does have one slight drawback that it doesn't mention when you buy it. You can use a standard CD format song (a WAV file)and that's what the program converts. However, it will also convert an MP3 file to the necessary WAV file format for you. This is what I usually do. After I record a segment of music that has been slowed down, I will want to put it into my MP3 player so I can take it to practice with. This is the drawback: The 'Slowgold' program can't convert it back to an MP3 format for your player. However, you can find a plethora of free online converters that will take your slowed down WAV file and change it to an MP3 file if you so desire. Otherwise you can just 'burn' the file as a standard audio (WAV) file onto a CD for your CD player.
I bought this program about 9 months ago so maybe there are better programs out there now.


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#1137011 - 09/02/05 04:58 PM Re: Riff Decoder  
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Funny you should mention SlowGold. I downloaded the demo last night and tried and liked it so I decided to buy the license (actually $49), but bailed halfway through the process because they demanded waaaay too much info (phone numbers, etc.).

I'm actually looking for a piece of hardware to do this as I don't want to bring a PC into the living room with my piano - I prefer just a little gizmo.

Thanks for the response. BTW, is it helping you to pull apart chops?

#1137012 - 09/02/05 05:18 PM Re: Riff Decoder  
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You might look at the Tascam CD-VT1 Vocal Trainer

Although it has some features aimed specifically at vocalists (like reducing the center vocals on recordings), it is also a CD player that knows several tricks with tempo, pitch, and looping that can be useful for any musician. It seems to be about $150 at Guitar Center, Musicians Friend, etc.

The high-end products in this area are probably the SuperScope line ( www.superscopetechnologies.com ) but they are much more expensive.


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#1137013 - 09/03/05 06:16 PM Re: Riff Decoder  
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Originally posted by kraniak:
I'm looking for a device that will easily and cheaply slow down the music, allowing you to pick apart complex passages. I know there are old tools out there that do this by slowing a cassette by one-half speed (1/2 speed will preserve key, albeit, one octave lower). Supposedly there are newer, digital products that will allow varied decreases in speed while preserving pitch.

Anyone familiar with or using such devises that can provide some input? I found one such product but would like to see other options (http://www.sabine.com/newsite/liveapps/ibktraka.htm)

Thanks!
I use software called Transcribe from http://www.seventhstring.co.uk

The license fee is about $40, and it works well. I'd like them to go a step further and post the notes on a staff (right now they show waveforms above a piano keyboard, and you have to chose the notes yourself.)

Anyway, give it a look-see.


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#1137014 - 09/05/05 01:13 AM Re: Riff Decoder  
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There is a hardware device made by Superscope that does the job. Check it out at
www.superscopetechnologies.com
I use Transcribe. What is very helpful for transcribing heavy jazz chords is the harmonic spectrum analysis where you can see the notes of the chords on a keyboard at the bottom of the screen. A great way to check on your ear training.

#1137015 - 09/05/05 01:14 AM Re: Riff Decoder  
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There is a hardware device made by Superscope that does the job. Check it out at
www.superscopetechnologies.com
I use Transcribe. What is very helpful for transcribing heavy jazz chords is the harmonic spectrum analysis where you can see the notes of the chords on a keyboard at the bottom of the screen. A great way to check on your ear training.

#1137016 - 09/05/05 09:39 PM Re: Riff Decoder  
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Thanks for the responses. I pressed my laptop into service and downloaded Transcribe. It seems to be the most cost-effective solution for me.


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