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Of course, I Agree, and I know Tchaikovsky wrote 3, but I dont even know the other 2, I meant he only needed to write that one, and that would have been enough.
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In an attempt to avoid the inevitable emotional content from a top 3 composer selection ... a similar January poll in Pianist Corner was prefaced by:
"Escaping in a Star Wars pod prior to mother-ship Earth being nuked by Darth Vader ... who's keyboard music ( 3 composers) would you take along to pollinate a Homo Sapiens restart amongst the stars? My choice would be Beethoven, Chopin and Gershwin.
But imagine leaving behind the music of Bach, Mozart, Mendelssohn, Tschaikowsky, Debussy and Rachmaninoff ... to mention a few. However ... what would be your threesome?
PS the pod comes complete with Fazioli grand. Any takers?"
The poll resulted in an almost dead-heat ... but with Bach marginally shading Beethoven and Chopin.
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to me, Chopin is placed after Mozart at least, and Bach and Beethoven are always on the top of everyone else.
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Too tough! While I love Chopin, Beethoven and of course Bach and Mozart. I would be grief-stricken to leave behind Tchaikovsky, Rach, Gershwin, Schumann, Schubert and so many others. I'd think I would just stay behind and listen to all I could before being nuked!
Chopin’s music is all I need to look into my soul.
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Originally posted by loveschopintoomuch:
Too tough! While I love Chopin, Beethoven and of course Bach and Mozart. I would be grief-stricken to leave behind Tchaikovsky, Rach, Gershwin, Schumann, Schubert and so many others. I'd think I would just stay behind and listen to all I could before being nuked! Best answer of all.
Slow down and do it right. ![[Linked Image]](http://www.pianoworld.com/forumpicts/MOYD12/MOYD_789012.gif)
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He is the greatest, together with Bruce-Lee  .
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Chopin and Rachmaninov are my two favorites. I am learning Chopin's ubiquitous "Nocturne in E flat" and I've always appreciated and loved much of his music, but I think it's possible to get a better feel for the music, a closer feel for it, when you are playing it yourself, don't you think?
There is a point 3/4 of the way through the music, when the notes reach very high...
I played it through once, twice, then had to get up and walk away from the piano. I was thinking what a GENIUS Chopin was. The music in that section is the culmination of everything that came before it, it is so eloquent and beautiful and PERFECT...
As another member here said, the personal connection shone through. Here was a man who lived so many many years ago and yet today he speaks to us through his music.
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You forgot about this one: http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/3489.html ninjanitor excuse me but you are so wrong.
In my opinion, List, ShuMang and Buramsu are way WAY above Chopan. I agree that Chopan composed masterpieces such as, works such as those that he wrote as a composer, many of which can be named that are famous and are masterpieces, but Shumang composed even better masterpieces in that they are more masterful (probably 20 to 22.5 times more masterful) than the best that Chopan ever scribbled in his lousy notebooks.
Shumang's pieces are more masterful in a more masterly way than Chopan.
List is more masterful than Chopan but less maybe than Shumang, and that in a not so overtly masterful manner, but more in a kind of mastery way of mastering the instrument.
Buramsu is masterful, but his mastery distinguishes itself from the other masters by the fact that it is less overmastered, but more masterly controlled and to the proper level of mastery.
You would probably need three hands at least to count how many masterful masterworks Buramsu composed.
END OF PROOF
... Oh YEAH?!? Well, let me just tell you about *my* super-duperest composition, Symphonic Metamorphosis on "I Fought the Law and the Law Won" for sixteen vibraphones, antelope, and speedos, in the key of HOLY F*#! minor. I originally wrote it for the Benedictine Monks of Santo Domingo de Silos, but they were busy with Hildegard von Bingen at the time. Liszt *wishes* he were me.
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Originally posted by Johnny-Boy: Saying Chopin was the greatest is like saying chocolate ice cream is better than all the other flavors of ice cream. I think I’d get sick of eating chocolate all the time.
Best, John  I'm trying to figure out how the conversation continued beyond this? I was thinking, "BRILLIANT! Case closed! I feel that Chopin is great but not my favorite. I think he once was, but nowadays his music tends to be lacking something that I can't clearly define. But Brahms never EVER fails me. For me it is Brahms first and all others far behind him. This is of course opinion and personal taste even though I'd love to try and make it seem like fact. Recently there have been some threads about so-and-so is a genius/greatest composer ever. I've been wanting to created the same thread for Brahms but I have no content to provide. I can't provide any adequate words to explain how he surpasses the rest.
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Originally posted by PootieTooGood: Originally posted by Johnny-Boy: [b] Saying Chopin was the greatest is like saying chocolate ice cream is better than all the other flavors of ice cream. I think I’d get sick of eating chocolate all the time. Best, John
I feel that Chopin is great but not my favorite. I think he once was, but nowadays his music tends to be lacking something that I can't clearly define. But Brahms never EVER fails me. For me it is Brahms first and all others far behind him. This is of course opinion and personal taste even though I'd love to try and make it seem like fact. Recently there have been some threads about so-and-so is a genius/greatest composer ever. I've been wanting to created the same thread for Brahms but I have no content to provide. I can't provide any adequate words to explain how he surpasses the rest. [/b]Counterpoint
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You're absolutely right. What a fantastic discussion! Originally posted by pianojerome: You forgot about this one:
http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/3489.html
ninjanitor excuse me but you are so wrong.
In my opinion, List, ShuMang and Buramsu are way WAY above Chopan. I agree that Chopan composed masterpieces such as, works such as those that he wrote as a composer, many of which can be named that are famous and are masterpieces, but Shumang composed even better masterpieces in that they are more masterful (probably 20 to 22.5 times more masterful) than the best that Chopan ever scribbled in his lousy notebooks.
Shumang's pieces are more masterful in a more masterly way than Chopan.
List is more masterful than Chopan but less maybe than Shumang, and that in a not so overtly masterful manner, but more in a kind of mastery way of mastering the instrument.
Buramsu is masterful, but his mastery distinguishes itself from the other masters by the fact that it is less overmastered, but more masterly controlled and to the proper level of mastery.
You would probably need three hands at least to count how many masterful masterworks Buramsu composed.
END OF PROOF
Oh YEAH?!? Well, let me just tell you about *my* super-duperest composition, Symphonic Metamorphosis on "I Fought the Law and the Law Won" for sixteen vibraphones, antelope, and speedos, in the key of HOLY F*#! minor. I originally wrote it for the Benedictine Monks of Santo Domingo de Silos, but they were busy with Hildegard von Bingen at the time. Liszt *wishes* he were me.
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I think Chopin is ONE of the best, his Pistache (Or however it is spelt) is pretty amazing, and his black note etude.
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Chopin is my favorite classical composer. His nocturnes are so beautiful. The nocturnes are so romantic. I have worked on his Nocturne in E flat, my goal is to finish it one day. His preludes are beautiful also. I always feel peaceful when I listen to his music.
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