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#1093699 - 02/06/09 01:15 PM Re: Discouraged ..  
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"The Inner Game of Music" is another good one to read and learn to apply.

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#1093700 - 02/06/09 01:28 PM Re: Discouraged ..  
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Well it's taken me a very long time but I now accept the fact that I will alway play worse at lessons. Your teacher knows this and inspite of your mess ups can tell that you have worked hard and are improving. What helps me at a lesson is to play one or two of the studies/exercises I have been working on prior to my piece(s). This helps me warm up, relax and get most of the jitters out.

Maybe instead of tryong to play the whole piece through at each lesson, ask if you can focus on one or 2 sections that may be causing you trouble. Then the pressure is off and I think most teachers are at their best when you yourself are focused on a particular problem rather than worried about 'performing' for them. I've occasionally gone to a lesson saying.. ."Well I've really only focused on these ... measures and would like to work out the timing (or whatever) for these sections this week.


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#1093701 - 02/06/09 01:53 PM Re: Discouraged ..  
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Has anyone discovered that when they are at lessons with the teacher - perhaps the piano bench needs to be moved further away from the keyboard or adjusted in come way?

Has anyone discovered that sitting on the bench with your nose (which is the centerline of your body) opposite the same note each time you play a piano, at home, at lesson, or elsewhere?

Alignment is important between the human and the piano you are playing!

Do both ideas and see if it begins to make a difference!

Sit centered!

#1093702 - 02/06/09 03:42 PM Re: Discouraged ..  
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Yes! I am reading The Perfect Wrong Note. It has practically doubled my practice time.

I will check out the Inner Game of Music too.

Thanks!


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#1093703 - 02/06/09 10:38 PM Re: Discouraged ..  
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I am curious about something.

What style of music is everyone learning during their "lesson time"?

The only style of music I can think of in which "perfection" is the perceived goal is classical. In just about every other form, be it jazz, blues, gospel, rock, or whatever, there is a certain amount of imperfection that is not only allowed, but desirable. In those styles you are meant to feel the music within you and express it your way, within the basic structure of the piece. And in many cases, you are free to improvise! What is "written" on the page is merely a skeleton upon to hang your own notes.

Even classical music gets "re-interpreted" by every conductor who leads an orchestra.

My point is that I'm not sure how much we should get hung up on "perfect" playing, when playing live should be an organic, almost messy process where you as an individual emerges. It still has to sound like music, and hopefully good music, but I wonder if we aren't shooting ourselves in the proverbial feet by embracing a system of learning in which the only goal is "getting it correct" rather than "making it sound good". Because quite frankly, the two are not always the same thing.

Please understand that I am NOT advocating that we dispense with learning good technique or how music "works". Rather, I am advocating a little less emphasis on treating each piece as if there is one and only one "correct" way to play it, and a little more focus on learning to internalize music and how to express it as an individual. It might take some of the pressure off when playing in front of people. Unless you are playing classical piano I guess...

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