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Piano Glasses #1088738
07/21/04 01:31 PM
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Since this is the Adult forum, many of you may understand my problem. It would seem that now at age 44, reading glasses are needed. frown cursing I have been monkeying around the the drug store type to get used to them and to have some sight before my Doc. appt. so I can read the piano classifieds! wink

When playing piano, I would like to be able to see the music better, but to look down at the keys is rather like having vertigo. A friend had once said she would like reverse bifocals, with readers on top and glass on the bottom for looking at the keys.

What do other adult pianists use? I am planning on learning all the alternatives so that when I go, I will have the perfect pair made for practicing. Of course, I expect to play SO much better! :p laugh


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Re: Piano Glasses #1088739
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I tried bifocals, found myself nodding up and down like a bobble head.

"Reading" glasses worked best for me, I also use them at the computer all day (it was worse on the computer, I'd tilt my head so far back I almost tipped over).

I went for prescription, the same as the lower portion of my bifocals.
(I use the bifocals for everything but the computer and piano).

The trick is to be able to find them when you need them:-)


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Re: Piano Glasses #1088740
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The trick is to be able to find them when you need them:-)
No kidding...I have 5 pairs of sunglasses in strategic locations. Bought two pairs of readers, one for bedside table, other for downstairs pill bottle, newspaper, checkbook reading....

Wish they built in little beepers for locating them and my car keys! laugh


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Re: Piano Glasses #1088741
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I had "piano glasses" made with the intermediate distance scrip on my progressive lenses. I didn't use the reading prescription because it was for too close. You are much farther away from the music when sitting properly than reading distance. They work great for me. I have had them about a month. I tried using my regular and just couldn't deal with the constant trying to find just the right spot in my glasses.


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Re: Piano Glasses #1088742
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The piano glasses also work on my computer. I can relate Frank - bobble-heading at the computer and the piano.


You will be 10 years older, ten years from now, no matter what you do - so go for it!

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Re: Piano Glasses #1088743
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I gather this is a common issue with us "older pianists". My older brother told me he had "piano glasses" as well as "golf glasses"!! Well I took his advice and I keep glasses at the piano and mine are a reading perscription. I find they work well here and for computer. I even took and outdated frame and put the reading perscription in it rather than buy new frames for just around the house. It's a pain getting older isn't it but at least this plan works for playing the music.

Re: Piano Glasses #1088744
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I'm with teachum in regard to glasses.

The last time I got them I got two, one for regular reading and one specially for playing the piano, as it's a further distance away from the eyes.

Also made sure it had a different color rim not to confuse, and always keep it on the piano.

Zongora

Re: Piano Glasses #1088745
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I remember Zongora... talking about glasses with you and then the dollar store and the bargains at the sales. How is your back?


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Re: Piano Glasses #1088746
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The dollar glasses are thrown all over the place and carry with me in case I lose it. I also have two good prescription ones that stay home, one of which is primarily for use with my "88 note mistress".

Back's fine for a while now, thanks. It's the rest of me that's falling apart.

I love this "GOODest" forum.

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Re: Piano Glasses #1088747
07/22/04 07:17 AM
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Beelady: When you go to your eye doc appointment please bring some sheet music. This will give your doc an idea of the size of your reading material. Before you get there have someone measure your working distance. A working distance, in this case, would be defined from around the tip of your nose to your music desk. Believe it or not a difference of 3-4" can make a significant difference on your reading power. Like most of the posts, I would recommend a reading only pair. The exception to that is when there is a distance need as well. Some musicians that I examine have to look at a conductor as well as their music. In this case I'll prescribe a bifocal or progressive with the reading power equal to their working distance.
BTW, if it's been a while since you've had an exam please make sure they dilate your eyes. cool Also make sure they do a screening of your peripheral vision(to check for early signs of glaucoma).
Jon


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Re: Piano Glasses #1088748
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I use my reading glasses. Nothing different or fancy. Seems to work fine.


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Re: Piano Glasses #1088749
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Same as Teachum and Zongora. Bifocals for reading, driving and such - midpoint glasses for piano and computer tasks.


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Re: Piano Glasses #1088750
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I bought two 3 packs from Sam's or Costco. Plastic clear ones. My eyes seem to change.


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Sometimes they are better than others. One set is a little stronger than the other . they are definitely a step above the dollar ones.


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Re: Piano Glasses #1088751
07/22/04 12:20 PM
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I am going to print this thread! My opthomologist does dilate and screen for all sorts of things, thanks for the reminder jdsher. While I have never needed glasses before, I still go for checkups now and then.

Bringing sheet music along is a great idea. I have been measuring distance, too. I find that like lots of you, piano and computer are about the same, the distance to the end of my fingers with my arm extended forward. Looks like there will be a pair just for that.

Oh, I do hope this explains my lousy piano playing lately! :rolleyes: :p


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Re: Piano Glasses #1088752
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Originally posted by Piano World:
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The trick is to be able to find them when you need them:-)
No kidding...I have 5 pairs of sunglasses in strategic locations. Bought two pairs of readers, one for bedside table, other for downstairs pill bottle, newspaper, checkbook reading....

Wish they built in little beepers for locating them and my car keys! laugh [/b]
BeeLady,

You're not paying enough for those sunglasses. wink I only have one pair (and they are perscription) but I *never* misplace my Oakleys! laugh


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Re: Piano Glasses #1088753
07/23/04 09:53 AM
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I wear progressive bifocal lenses and understand what you mean. I work at a computer all day and play at night. I found myself getting a sore neck and stiff shoulders from having my head cocked back all the time to see partially through the lower section of the lenses.

When I bought my most recent glasses, I mentioned the problem and bought a second pair with single vision optimized for 2 to 3 feet away. Since the lenses aren't bifocal, they were not that expensive and no more sore neck.

The only problem is when I get up and walk around with the piano glasses on. Things get a bit "woozy". Reminds me to change glasses pretty quickly though!


Wynne
Re: Piano Glasses #1088754
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Dear Beelady, I suffered just like you -- tried everything -- ended up with 3 or 4 pairs of different prescription glasses (computer, piano, reading, driving) -- then I went to bifocals -- then to "progressive" lenses. Nothing really worked worth a hoot. Then I hit 50 - and bam, my eyes stabilized, and I no longer have any trouble -- my "varilux" lenses work perfectly no matter if I am sitting on a "low" piano bench or a "high" piano bench. Hang in there.
Virginia (from Virginia)

Re: Piano Glasses #1088755
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I was extremely nearsighted (couldn't read the biggest letter on the chart!), so I had lasik surgery done on both eyes, then had both "retouched". My right eye is 20/20, and my left is 20/35. So far, I use glasses only for driving at night mainly when it's raining, and just the left lens has any power.

When I play the piano, my eyes are about 22" from the sheet music (give or take an inch), at which I can see the music clearly with my right eye but not my left (need to be about 4" closer). I'm sure I'll need some reading/piano glasses soon, so it's helpful to read everyone's experiences and be prepared with ideas!


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Re: Piano Glasses #1088756
07/25/04 12:45 PM
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I'm sure I'll need some reading/piano glasses soon, so it's helpful to read everyone's experiences and be prepared with ideas!
My thoughts exactly. It nice to have some vocabulary to go with it. Having never had glasses before "progressive", "distance scrip" are things very new to me! Just from reading everyone's accounts, I already feel I know what sort of arrangement will work best for me. Hopefully that will save having glasses made up that aren't convenient..especially since insurance does not cover them!

Now I only wish the appt. was sooner, still three weeks away. I am anxious to be able to see well again!


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Re: Piano Glasses #1088757
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Hello all,

This is my first post to the piano forums. I'm a semi-professional violin/viola player, but definitely a piano A.B. I've lurked for several months and learned a lot by reading these forums.

When I developed presbyopia more than 10 years ago, I found the bifocals with lines distorted music staffs to unusability. I ended up asking for the right eye lens to be single vision, set for 36", and the left to be a progressive with full distance on top and 21" on the bottom (I'm very near-sighted).

The reasoning was that music distance for piano, orchestra playing, and seeing the conductor were all covered in this way.

The progressive lens has areas of reduced focusing sharpness on either side of the bifocal portion (for some reason, that's true of all progressives), and the single vision lens for the other eye helps to fill in the unclear areas when using both eyes.

The optometrist had to be persuaded to make this unusual combination, but for me it was so successful that I've ended up using these glasses for most purposes except extended close-up or distance work. They're fine for computer use too.

BeeLady, I hope this gives you yet another option.

fiddler

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