Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!


SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Modern Piano Moving
Modern Piano Moving
(ad)
Virtual Sheet Music
Download Sheet Music Instantly
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Sheet Music...
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Piano Buyer Spring 2017
(ad)
Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restorations and sales
Who's Online Now
56 registered members (ChatNoir, Beemer, ando, amad23, casinitaly, 11 invisible), 1,509 guests, and 11 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#1081359 - 01/30/08 04:23 AM I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,360
Rosanna Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Rosanna  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,360
San Francisco Bay area
Just thought I'd mention to some of the dear folks here that I just started PianoMagic this weekend - finally! yippie I have asked enough questions about it that I assume some of you may be interested to find out this latest development.

It's definitely a different way of thinking and learning, and it's not "traditional". So far I am approaching each lesson with a sense of excitement of discovery. I haven't taken paid lessons of any kind for a long time and these lessons just keep me so interested.

Any slim hope that I may prepare a piece (playing from score) for the upcoming recital is gone. :p I am spending a bit more time over at PM and at the piano learning. But don't do anything I won't do - I am still keeping an eye on all of you!


[Linked Image]
(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#1081360 - 01/30/08 06:05 AM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,674
gmm1 Offline
1000 Post Club Member
gmm1  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,674
Spokane WA
Good luck kiddo. I will be watching your progress as well.

Sounds like you are going to "dive in the deep end" and put aside everything for a while. As you know, I think that's the smart thing to do, based on my short roadtrip the other way.

Keep in touch.


"There is nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself." Johann Sebastian Bach/Gyro
#1081361 - 01/30/08 07:15 AM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 73
text Offline
Full Member
text  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 73
Windsor, United Kingdom
...another convert methinks !! Just wait until Brother Lee reads this smile ha ha

#1081362 - 01/30/08 09:21 AM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,167
Seaside_Lee Offline
2000 Post Club Member
Seaside_Lee  Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,167
Blackpool, UK
Brother Lee?...LOL

text, I have already said "hello" to Rosanna over there and have been looking forward to her joining for quite a while smile I am really excited about how things are going to pan out...lets wait and see wink

To be honest I'm sure she's in for a real blast I can just feel it...Rosanna, to let you know I just can't wait for the pennies to start to dropping thumb

regards


Lee smile


Twitter: @Seaside_Lee
(ad ) MusicNotes.com
sheet music search
#1081363 - 01/30/08 09:25 AM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,170
Rerun Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Rerun  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,170
Louisiana
[quote : Any slim hope that I may prepare a piece (playing from score) for the upcoming recital is gone.]


Jeepers, you'll be ready to post something by ear then anyway, and I can't wait to hear it! smile


Rerun

"Seat of the pants piano player" DMD


[Linked Image]



#1081364 - 01/30/08 10:00 AM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 73
text Offline
Full Member
text  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 73
Windsor, United Kingdom
...I know Lee I was also at the initiation ceremony. thumb

#1081365 - 01/30/08 10:13 AM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 18,138
Monica K. Offline

Platinum Supporter until Dec 31 2012
Monica K.  Offline

Platinum Supporter until Dec 31 2012


Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 18,138
Lexington, Kentucky
Quote
Originally posted by Rosanna:
So far I am approaching each lesson with a sense of excitement of discovery. I haven't taken paid lessons of any kind for a long time and these lessons just keep me so interested.

That's terrific, Rosanna! thumb That's what piano should be all about.

Looking forward to hearing regular progress reports from you. smile


Mason & Hamlin A -- 91997
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/pianomonica
[Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image]
#1081366 - 01/31/08 02:54 AM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,360
Rosanna Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Rosanna  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,360
San Francisco Bay area
Quote
Originally posted by gmm1:
I will be watching your progress as well.
Quote
Originally posted by rerun:

you'll be ready to post something by ear then anyway, and I can't wait to hear it!
Uh-oh, no pressure pleazzze...

I posted a question over at PM yesterday, and another member's answer (actually Troy, who is also a PW member) made me see a whole different perspective on playing by ear (vs playing by score.) It's exciting and scary at the same time. It's a whole new awareness, new way of relating to music than what I consciously know, or have been trained for. I also realize that whatever piano experience I have doesn't count at all - at least not at this stage. But the good thing is that I was made conscious of how I relate to music now, and can put that aside in order to learn a new way.

We've heard some PM members warn that some people with previous piano experience don't progress as well, or don't like the PM method. I think it may not be due to closed mindedness, or trying to go too fast, etc. It may just be not seeing the existing "filter"/awareness that they carry, and thus missing the "right" way to relate to PM. I for one was in that situation, unknowingly, until I got a very enlightening answer from Troy.

Sheesh, I may sound like Seaside someday, the way I am extolling the virtues of being in PM. :p


[Linked Image]
#1081367 - 01/31/08 04:12 AM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 314
Sundew Offline
Full Member
Sundew  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 314
England
It's lovely to read and feel such enthusiasm Rosanna. smile Have a great time there and I look forward to reading about, and hearing, your progress.

#1081368 - 01/31/08 03:33 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,268
TonyB Offline
1000 Post Club Member
TonyB  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,268
Twin Cities
Hi all:

This Piano Magic sounds interesting. Though I am involved in the Shinn course for the next year or two, I will at some point be interested in looking at Piano Magic as another approach to learn with in addition to what I will already have learned. However, I looked at the site and it appears to me that you would need to be running something other than Linux to have the necessary tools to use the videos and whatever other teaching materials the site presents. Is this true?

Thanks,

Tony

#1081369 - 01/31/08 04:08 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 391
Astra Offline
Full Member
Astra  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 391
Slovenia
Hi Tony!

Go to the site and try to register. You will see that before you can register there's first a compatibility check. If you 'pass' it, then you will be able to use PianoMagic.


ex - pian00b
#1081370 - 01/31/08 04:18 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,268
TonyB Offline
1000 Post Club Member
TonyB  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,268
Twin Cities
Astra:

Thanks! I will try that. Reading all the discussions about Piano Magic, that method seems quite viable, and I am interested in checking it out as an addition to what I am already doing sometime in the future. Maybe that is not the best way to do it, but right now I want to stay focused on my current course until I finish it. But I also am intrigued by the things people are saying about Piano Magic.

Thanks,

Tony

#1081371 - 01/31/08 07:56 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 49
bigbeardale Offline
Full Member
bigbeardale  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 49
PA
Quote
Originally posted by TonyB:
Hi all:

This Piano Magic sounds interesting. it appears to me that you would need to be running something other than Linux to have the necessary tools to use the videos and whatever other teaching materials the site presents. Is this true?

Thanks,

Tony
Hi Tony
I am a member over at Piano Magic, and sometimes I use my mepis linux cds in live mode, and everything seems to work fine.

Dale

#1081372 - 01/31/08 09:08 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,268
TonyB Offline
1000 Post Club Member
TonyB  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,268
Twin Cities
Dale:

Thanks for the info! That definitely tells me what I needed to know.

Thanks,

Tony

#1081373 - 02/01/08 06:39 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 90
troy1troy Offline
Full Member
troy1troy  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 90
USA
Wow Rosanna! I didn't realize that I made my point that well. I usually just ramble and don't make sense. I'm REALLY glad you understand......that's probably the biggest hurdle for folks with previous experience.

You've been there for only a few weeks, and I assume you already see why you need to check your experience at the door? It's not because it doesn't apply. It's because it "temporarily" gets in the way of seeing things in a different perspective.

After a good amount of time with PM, you'll be shocked at how much better you'll understand the "written stuff".

Take care,

Troy

#1081374 - 02/02/08 12:43 AM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,360
Rosanna Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Rosanna  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,360
San Francisco Bay area
Troy, I have to say your answer in that PM thread, among all the others, was THE answer. Even Mike's didn't quite do it for me. wow

I have been wanting to send you a pvt msg just to say thank you, but there is some nasty software interaction in my computer that makes it not possible for me to use that function over in PMMO. Glad you see this thread here - Thanks!


[Linked Image]
#1081375 - 02/02/08 06:24 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 158
dvs cycles Offline
Full Member
dvs cycles  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 158
SoCal
This thread made me curious so I went to PianoMagic and looked around.
So this is all online with no book?
My computer is no where near my piano and won't ever be.
He relates piano to dog training?
I consider myself a fair dog obedience trainer having raised 2 semi obedient Shar Pei over the last 17 years but spoiled them rotten and made them fat with treats.
Do I put candy on the piano and everytime I think I did good take one out.
I imagine getting fatter just thinking about it. laugh

#1081376 - 02/02/08 07:08 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,360
Rosanna Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Rosanna  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,360
San Francisco Bay area
dvs cycles, good thing I am not a candy-ohlics!

I have experience in teaching in my previous job. From these early PM lessons, I would say Mike happens to have a very unique way of bringing the students to the water, so to speak, and letting them make their own learning and discoveries. His languaging may be rather unconventional, but then he is being true to himself. For the lessons where I can tell the underlying intent of where he is guiding the students, it actually all makes sense. One has to be careful not to get too stuck on his pedagogical language and means. (I am not implying that you are.) I actually find his means to be rather entertaining and also very thoughtful underneath.

I told you guys. I am at risk of sounding like Seaside_Lee the second. (Hmmm, "SL II" does have a certain royal look to it. laugh )


[Linked Image]
#1081377 - 02/03/08 01:14 AM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,663
Elssa Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Elssa  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,663
NY
"He relates piano to dog training?"

I'm a life-long "cat person", never owned a dog, am my cat's human, etc., but I still find PMMO very helpful and useful, and believe me, I wouldn't stick around for one minute if I wasn't learning a lot musically from it and getting my "treats" (tuna preferred). smile

#1081378 - 02/03/08 11:10 AM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,170
Rerun Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Rerun  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,170
Louisiana
quote DVS cycles: This thread made me curious so I went to PianoMagic and looked around.
So this is all online with no book?
________________________________________

Yep, pretty scary huh?
___________________________________________

quote: My computer is no where near my piano and won't ever be.
_____________________________________________

Yep, he prefers that the piano be inside.
______________________________________________

quote: He relates the piano to dog training.
_______________________________________________

Jeepers, you are on a roll, move your treats under the piano. smile


Mike's no snob. It's about having some fun while you are learning. smile


Rerun

"Seat of the pants piano player" DMD


[Linked Image]



#1081379 - 02/03/08 01:13 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,167
Seaside_Lee Offline
2000 Post Club Member
Seaside_Lee  Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,167
Blackpool, UK
Hey DVS smile


we like it in the DAWG pound dude wink ha


Lee smile


Twitter: @Seaside_Lee
#1081380 - 02/03/08 09:43 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 989
Kawaigirl1 Offline
500 Post Club Member
Kawaigirl1  Offline
500 Post Club Member

Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 989
Toronto
This new adventure sounds exciting and fun Rosanna....keep us inform of your progress thumb

#1081381 - 02/03/08 10:49 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,289
mr_super-hunky Offline
4000 Post Club Member
mr_super-hunky  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,289
Rosanna;

I too will be looking forward to hearing (and listening) to your PM progress.

As you may know, I have invented my own home-brew method of learning piano which revolves around two basic principals; cheating and stealing!.

The "cheating" part comes from my use of some form of a written score that I use as a guide to improvise from.

The "stealing" portion comes from closely listening to what many of the PM players are doing in the performances and copying it.

I really love Lee's full usage of the ENTIRE keyboard when he plays a tune. Making any piece sound full and rich (like a one person orchestra) really appeals to me and I like the way many of the PM students/players do it.

The only pitfall I see is Mikes strict adhearance to NOT using any written score whatsoever as that may be counter productive to what he's trying to teach you to do.

While I fully understand his reasons for doing so, I would never have been able to learn pieces like Nefeli, To Zanarkand, Path of Repentence etc as I've never heard these tunes before and so I could not "humm" them.

Even if I could humm them, they are way too complicated to play by ear (IMO).

Still, the proofs in the pudding and I have only very positive compliments for what many of the PM students have accomplished which is why I'm eager to see your progress as well.

#1081382 - 02/03/08 11:28 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,360
Rosanna Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Rosanna  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,360
San Francisco Bay area
Hi Mr SH,

I am as curious as you are to see how I will progress! smile

Your stealing and cheating have served you well from what I can tell! I am not that good learning things without any guidance, so I doubt very much I can get anywhere by trial and error. It would cause me too much frustration - and when it's no fun, I would just give up.

As for learning without any sheet music (a la PM), I think it boils down to what one wants to do. For me, I am very glad about this particular aspect of PM. If I am allowed to "cheat" by reading lead sheets, I will never develop my ears - not just for the melody, but for hearing chord changes in general. I do see the pitfall, if you want to call it that, that with PM, it may be challenging to play the "new age" tunes, as they really aren't singable. I imagine it's quite possible to play improv based on the hummable skeletons of those songs tho'. [Senior PM members, feel free to jump in!]

But like I said, it boils down to where one wants to get to. Luckily, if I want to play the new-age pieces, I can sight-read! (Jab, jab laugh )) But it turns out I would love to play pop singable tunes - Bee Gees included, Monica! And boy, I watched Mike play on some PM videos. Wow, I love it!

Anyway, with ABF's eyes on me, I hope I can make y'all proud!


[Linked Image]
#1081383 - 02/04/08 01:04 AM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,289
mr_super-hunky Offline
4000 Post Club Member
mr_super-hunky  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,289
I would like to see a combo of lead sheets, PM methods, and improvising all wrapped into one.

I guess THAT'S what I'm trying to do but I can't speak of the PM portion since I've never taken the PM course. (Again, that's where the "stealing" portion comes in!). thumb

I do know of, er..um, *some* un-named member of PM that DOES use lead sheets but like I said, I think Mike discourages that.

If Mike offered a course that combined the pricipals of the PM methods along with using lead sheets and written scores, I would jump in in a second. Again, I have no idea if this is possible as may just be counter productive.

I guess I'll just keep on cheating and stealing various piano methods as in some weird way, it works for me.

#1081384 - 02/04/08 04:24 AM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,167
Seaside_Lee Offline
2000 Post Club Member
Seaside_Lee  Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,167
Blackpool, UK
Hi Mr S-H

Quote
If Mike offered a course that combined the pricipals of the PM methods along with using lead sheets and written scores, I would jump in in a second.
Why would he do that?

His course is about learning to play solo piano by ear and the way to do that is to play without lead sheets or written music :p

You can already play with lead sheets and writen music the only bit you want to learn is how to PBE and thats the bit he teaches wink :p

BTW...Mike uses lead sheets all the time and can read music too...its not forbidden it just doesn't help much when learning to play by ear (or else everyone would simply be able to do it just by reading lead sheets or when playing written music wouldn't they?)


regards


Lee smile

Im looking forward to see how "SL II" is going to do, too thumb


Twitter: @Seaside_Lee
#1081385 - 02/04/08 05:29 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,289
mr_super-hunky Offline
4000 Post Club Member
mr_super-hunky  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,289
Lee:

I must admit that being able to sight read along with the ability to play by ear can be an incredible combination.

Someone could play scores that they have never heard before by sightreding and once they get the jist of the piece, embellish it with their own personal inflections.

To be honest, I think the piano player with the greatest advantage in any situation is someone who can proficiently do both. (kind of a best of both worlds scenario).

I can sightread music, just not very good but ultimately can get through an advanced beginer/intermediate piece.

I try very very hard to learn how to play by ear and am doing so with some succsess.

So far, I have accomplished this by doing two things:

1.) Paying VERY close attention to where certain sounds and combinations of sounds come from (and memorizing them).

2.) As nutty as this may sound, I consider myself to be an athority of how NOT to do certain things!. I.e, I know why you should'nt stick a scewdriver in an electrical socket!. ..I know why you don't lick the frost on a freezer with your tongue!. I even know why you don't want to try and light a fart on fire as a college prank!.

This sort of applies to my piano learning experiences. I know what combinations of notes DON'T work together even though I have no idea of the actual theory behind it.

I just know that with much daily practice I have been able to make the connection between many compatibly sounding notes and chords as well as numerous combinations of notes and chords that just don't work.

while I do have my reasons for doing my "dumb-luck" way of figuring stuff out, my comprehension of the newly learned matterial is much better as now I not only know what works, but what does'nt as well.
I admit this is NOT the most effecient learning method and is in many ways re-inventing the wheel. I guess my only response would be that although my method may not be efficient, it IS effective; at least for me.

No matter what learning methods are used, the bottom line is that in order for them to be *effective*, the student must be able to respond to it and make noticable progress. Having fun while doing so is also paramount for the longevity of any activity as well.

I am making progress using my wacky methods and still having a lot of fun in the process so I guess I am meeting my goals. That said, I am always open to better, more efficient methods of learning and would highly encourage others to do the same.

I am NOT willing to give up my written scores/lead sheets just yet but at the same time, I would be willing to learn how to play by ear in the abscense of them. Ultimately, my goal is to combine the two into a deadly combination or arsenal from which to draw from.

This is why I am very much looking forward to hearing and listening to Rosanna's progress.

Btw, Lee. I don't know if I ever asked you but can you read music?/sightread?. Just wondering 'cuz you seem to have a good grasp on the PBE aspect of playing music.

#1081386 - 02/04/08 05:53 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,167
Seaside_Lee Offline
2000 Post Club Member
Seaside_Lee  Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,167
Blackpool, UK
Hi Mr SH

If you are having fun...then thats all that matters IMHO smile

I have a feeling you are going to be thrilled with Rosanna's progress wink smile

Quote
Btw, Lee. I don't know if I ever asked you but can you read music?/sightread?
I can read a lead sheet in the key of C, F and G however only at slow speed...tricky keys? not a chance in heck!

I cannot read music at the moment


Lee smile


Twitter: @Seaside_Lee
#1081387 - 02/04/08 09:32 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 90
troy1troy Offline
Full Member
troy1troy  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 90
USA
Mr. SH,

Lee has essentially mentioned this, but I just wanted to mention that things at Piano Magic aren't quite that dogmatic. Your methods (both cheating and stealing wink ) obviously work for you...all we have to do is listen.

However, the goal at PM isn't to make you "give up" the rest of the piano methods. It is just encouraged that you put them on hold while your trying to learn a new method. You don't even really have to put them on hold. Other methods don't interfere with PM. It's just that other methods take your time away from PM hence slowing your progress with PM.

You've been around here enough and have heard these things 1000 times, but your post made it sound like once you join PM, everything else goes into the fire. I just wanted to make sure that you knew that isn't the case.

Even though you play beautifully...much better than me. I think you would benefit from PM because you wouldn't have to "cheat and steal"....you'd learn to do it all by your self.

Just my 2 cents.

Best of luck....

#1081388 - 02/04/08 10:01 PM Re: I am into Magic - the Piano kind  
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,360
Rosanna Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Rosanna  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,360
San Francisco Bay area
Mr SH, I second what Troy says 110%. For someone like you who already has developed an ear, you'll speed to the more advanced lessons and start your "cheating and stealing" there. [Edit: just discovery really, not cheating nor stealing.] For me, if I use lead sheet (which, ahem, Lee supposedly did, naughty, naughty), I would never develop my ear. But you are past that stage already!

Sheesh Troy, your thinking/perspective works for me like a glove!! I couldn't have said it better!

Quote
Originally posted by Seaside_Lee:
I have a feeling you are going to be thrilled with Rosanna's progress
Yikes, pressure!! I can't take it!! eek


[Linked Image]
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  BB Player, casinitaly 

Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
(ad)
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


(ad)
Pianoteq
Grotrian Concert
Royal
for Pianoteq out now
What's Hot!!
Why Do You Play The Piano?
-------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
-------------------
Piano Classified Ads
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Software Piano Comparison at KVRAudio
by Joe Garfield. 06/24/17 01:50 AM
Curious, how often do you play on an acoustic?
by Gombessa. 06/23/17 09:25 PM
How about those spinets?
by RonTuner. 06/23/17 06:46 PM
Info re 60s era Grotrian
by Duke of Dunning. 06/23/17 06:24 PM
Student progress using acoustic or digital piano
by Duke of Dunning. 06/23/17 05:17 PM
(ad)
Sheet Music Plus
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Forum Statistics
Forums44
Topics180,417
Posts2,638,563
Members88,169
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Check It Out!
There's a lot more to Piano World than just the forums.
Check It Out!
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2017 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0