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#1075861 - 10/24/07 01:37 PM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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After playing Chopin, I feel as if I had been weeping over sins that I had never committed, and mourning over tragedies that were not my own." Oscar Wilde, 1891
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#1075862 - 10/25/07 08:54 PM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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Wait, what happened? There was some stuff I saw before you deleted it all, and it's all quite confusing...


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#1075863 - 10/27/07 05:38 PM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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Hi everyone, I was just looking at the list on the first page and see that you have twenty Mazurkas covered. That seems an ideal number, as there will then be enough left for future Chopin Commemorative recitals. So I suggest you check your choices, and anyone wanting to change or join in at the last minute, please do so quickly. Then the list can be finalised.

Has everyone started practising? Isn't it amazing how quickly four months can fly by!

#1075864 - 10/28/07 01:00 AM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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Well, I'm not too much into mazurkas, also I like a few of them, particularly 17 n. 2 in Em and Op. 67 n. 3 in C. I know these were already spoken for; but I can serve as a backup; these are pretty simple for me, so a month notice would suffice (of course, the longer the better).


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#1075865 - 10/28/07 06:25 AM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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Yuri, have you played the Mazurkas much in the past? If not, force yourself to dip into them a bit and you might find they grow on you...

Certainly if we need a back-up for 17.2 or 67.3 then you will be called upon. Thanks! thumb

#1075866 - 10/28/07 10:25 AM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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68.2 looks free according to the list. Could I switch my first choice to that from 6.2?
thanks

#1075867 - 10/28/07 10:52 AM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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'THE' (NEW) LIST (as of 10/28/07)

***I suggest we FREEZE THE LIST for the 1st recital Nov. 1st***

[No number after the person's name indicates the mazurka is chosen for the 1st "Recital" on March 1, 2008. A number (2) and/or (3) indicates that mazurka has been chosen for the second and third recital. October 17, 2008 and March 1, 2009 (respectively).]

Backup performers: Theowne, Yuri


6/1- PianoAgain
6/3 - Balakirev


7/1 - Peyton (2)
7/2 - gabytu (2)
7/3 - Frycek
7/4 - Mistaya (3)
7/5 - Piano&Violin (2)


17/1 - Rustyfingers (3)
17/2 - Rustyfingers (backup Yuri)
17/3 - Rustyfingers (2)
17/4 - Peyton

24/2 - Theowne
24/3 - Pianolina


30/1 - Schubertian
30/2 - Gabtytu
30/3 - Schubertian (2)
30/4 - Schubertian (3)

33/1 - Piano&Violin (3)
33/2 - Playadom
33/3 - Chardonnay
33/4 - Piano&Violin


41/1 - Ragnhild (E minor)
41/2 - Balakirev (B Major) (2)
41/3 - Ragnhild (Ab Major) (2)
41/4 - Ragnhild (C# minor) (3)

50/2 - Frycek (3)
50/3 - Playadom* (1 along with 33/2)

63/1 - Gerg
63/2 - Mistaya (2)
63/3 - Frycek (2)

67/2 - Nancy333
67/3 - Cruiser (backup Yuri)
67/4 - Household


68/1- Balakirev (3)
68/2 - Mistaya
68/3 - Sleepingcats
68/4 - Bassio

Note 6/2 is now free.


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#1075868 - 10/28/07 04:39 PM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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Yuri, have you played the Mazurkas much in the past? If not, force yourself to dip into them a bit and you might find they grow on you...

Certainly if we need a back-up for 17.2 or 67.3 then you will be called upon. Thanks! thumb
Yes, I went through Soviet 7-year music school, and played mazurkas as part of program. Right now, my study program is kind of full: I am learning 2 Chopin Etudes, 4 Liszt pieces, and an 18-page Alkan's etude (op 76 #3). Adding a mazurka to the mix would certainly provide some relief; but at the moment the only effort I am realistically willing to expand on it is just sight reading through the piece a few times. That is until I am called for the backup (as I mentioned, I'd need about a month notice to bring it up to reasonable level), of course - then I'll concentrate more on the details.


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#1075869 - 10/30/07 12:22 AM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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OK, now I'm officially intimidated. help


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#1075870 - 10/30/07 12:59 AM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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Oh dear. And why would you ever be intimidated...?
I've heard you play on previous recital, and I felt you were one of the more accomplished pianists.
Now, some of us like to beat on the technical pieces until our fingers hurt, but that does not add any musicality to our playing (I am not saying it is not useful). Mazurkas are not that technical, anybody above, say, grade 6 level can play these at very competent level.


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#1075871 - 10/30/07 01:26 AM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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Well that was sweet. I'm literally blushing. I played my recital piece at about half tempo, and every time I think about it I get embarrassed. I guess one can get away with that playing something nobody knows well....

Thanks very much for the encouragement. I'll see what I can do! But after hearing your Revolutionary Etude....

Edit: I'm reminded of a time in jr. high school. My best friend was the accompanist for the chorus, and he was quite talented. Since I played, I turned pages for him. For some reason, the director decided to ask me to accompany one of the songs. I practiced and rehearsed with the chorus. But I knew that my friend could play it better than I could. So I backed out. And turned pages. Not one of my more shining moments, I'm afraid...


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#1075872 - 10/31/07 08:02 AM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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rustyfingers, I would feel even more nervous turning pages than playing myself - in case I let the pianist down! I was at a recital at the Chopin Society here in London earlier this year, and the pianist was playing something by Weber. His wife was the page-turner. At a really fast passage (where the pages seemed to need turning every two seconds) she lost her place, and he had to do it himself in the midst of a virtuosic run. She looked *so* abashed I felt really sorry for her.

#1075873 - 10/31/07 08:16 AM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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Being page turning is not a shining momonent, more like "somebody has to do it", but I will say it's a job for real enthusiasts - no pay, no honour and glory, just the joy of taking a tiny little part in music.

I have turned pages and pulling registers for our organist a few times in concerts. Last time on Sunday and I'm ashamed beacause he played a flawless and very musical Rheinberger Sonata and the only slip that could be heard was me being a tiny bit too late pulling the Trumpet...

Still it's always a pleasure to assist a great musician !

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#1075874 - 10/31/07 05:23 PM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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Ragnhild, I bet nobody but you and the organist even noticed.

I agree with you both that page turning is important and can be difficult. I didn't really meant to underestimate page turners.

I should have made it clear when I said "Not one of my more shining moments" I actually meant my cowardice in backing out, not the fact that I turned pages!


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#1075875 - 11/01/07 12:02 AM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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Pulling the Trumpet a bit too late is still better than a bit too early. laugh

#1075876 - 11/03/07 06:39 PM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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It's funny to think of Chopin being an organist, isn't it. He played the organ in his local Catholic Church in Warsaw, and also at the funeral of his friend the tenor Nourrit in Marseilles.

I think the organ is a great way of practising really extreme legato.

#1075877 - 11/06/07 01:16 PM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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Can I push my 33/1 back to the second recital? Learning 25/11 and 3 other Chopin pieces is a little bit of overload.


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#1075878 - 11/07/07 12:59 PM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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Can I push my 33/1 back to the second recital? Learning 25/11 and 3 other Chopin pieces is a little bit of overload.
Of course you can, Playadom.

So - the latest list looks like this:

[No number after the person's name indicates the mazurka is chosen for the 1st "Recital" on March 1, 2008. A number (2) and/or (3) indicates that mazurka has been chosen for the second and third recital. October 17, 2008 and March 1, 2009 (respectively).]

Backup performers: Theowne, Yuri


6/1- PianoAgain
6/3 - Balakirev


7/1 - Peyton (2)
7/2 - gabytu (2)
7/3 - Frycek
7/4 - Mistaya (3)
7/5 - Piano&Violin (2)


17/1 - Rustyfingers (3)
17/2 - Rustyfingers (backup Yuri)
17/3 - Rustyfingers (2)
17/4 - Peyton

24/2 - Theowne
24/3 - Pianolina


30/1 - Schubertian
30/2 - Gabtytu
30/3 - Schubertian (2)
30/4 - Schubertian (3)

33/1 - Piano&Violin (3)
33/2 - Playadom (2)
33/3 - Chardonnay
33/4 - Piano&Violin


41/1 - Ragnhild (E minor)
41/2 - Balakirev (B Major) (2)
41/3 - Ragnhild (Ab Major) (2)
41/4 - Ragnhild (C# minor) (3)

50/2 - Frycek (3)
50/3 - Playadom* (1 along with 33/2)

63/1 - Gerg
63/2 - Mistaya (2)
63/3 - Frycek (2)

67/2 - Nancy333
67/3 - Cruiser (backup Yuri)
67/4 - Household


68/1- Balakirev (3)
68/2 - Mistaya
68/3 - Sleepingcats
68/4 - Bassio

Love to all Mazurkathoners - Mary-Rose thumb

#1075879 - 11/09/07 11:10 AM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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How is everyone enjoying their Mazurkas? Is this a new genre for some of you? Do you find them addictive?

#1075880 - 11/09/07 12:45 PM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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This is the first time I've played one in a long long time, and I really am enjoying it. I admit that had it not been for this recital, I may have delayed exploring these (so much music, so little time!). But the rhythms are so catchy that I will definitely try others after this. (Plus, they're relatively short, which is sometimes good psychologically!)

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How is everyone enjoying their Mazurkas? Is this a new genre for some of you? Do you find them addictive?
It's certainly not new for listening, but this is the first time I've played a Mazurka. I find the one I'm playing to be quite addictive.


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#1075882 - 11/09/07 03:39 PM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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Hey, you're quoting gerg! That's cool laugh

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Hey, you're quoting gerg! That's cool laugh
It makes a great sig.


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#1075884 - 11/20/07 05:24 AM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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OK, time for a bump and progress report. I've fallen in love with mine. How about you?


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Not fallen in love, I think.
41.1 is a weird little piece and I'm not att all sure how to play it to make it mine, but still make it sound like a Mazurka...

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#1075886 - 11/20/07 06:55 AM Re: Join In the Mazurka Marathon!!  
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Mary-Rose,

it's my first Chopin piece, and it's the most difficult one I'm doing so far. I love Chopin music, and I'm doing a bit of background reading. For me, the mazurka is clearly a huge next step. My teacher had chosen it before I joined the marathon, so I should be fine with it, and I do enjoy the teacher's help.

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I'm sort of flailing away and not making much progress. Playable but slow and messy. I started with a public domain score which I had trouble reading, so I've switched editions, and am trying to replace the fingering I was using with the better suggestions in my new edition.

I figure I'll really buckle down on it after the holiday piano bar.


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So you want a progress report. Hmmm. Well I am working on my Mazurka. Love em, but not sure I am doing justice to them. I have a CD with them and the pianist plays them much much faster than I do. When I speed up, I make mistakes, so will stick to the slow playing. Maybe by March I will have them somewhat up to tempo. Gaby Tu

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gabytu, I think it's more important to stay in the correct rhythm than to play fast.

rustyfingers- what edition do you have now? I really think it's worth buying the better editions - I have noticed actual wrong notes in public domain scores. When you consider how much effort and time you put in, you might as well invest in a proper edition (and even they aren't perfect).

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Hi Mary Rose,

I splurged and got the Henle edition. My eyes are thanking me for it!

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