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how to keep score book pages from flipping? #1074903
06/29/07 04:35 PM
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This may seem a pretty silly and trivial question - and I don't know which subforum to post it. But here it is.

When I am using any thicker piano score books, the page I am playing just keeps wanting to flip close or to another page. I have always just used 2 heavy-ish piano books to hold down the edges of the pages. I always having 3 piano books on the stand - one for playing and two to hold the left and right pages down!

I am thinking of getting 2 paperweights, but paperweights aren't designed to hold down a page that is standing up vertically. The shape of the weight won't be stable on the music shelf.

Is there any other more "elegant" tricks?
Thanks!


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Re: how to keep score book pages from flipping? #1074904
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If it really bothers you, you can always take it to Kinko's and have them slice off the spine and spiral-bind it. I once played for a choral director who had me do this with the scores and it was really helpful.

But with my own books I usually just weigh them down with other books like you do, or else bend them till they stay open - maybe not the best solution...

Elaine

Re: how to keep score book pages from flipping? #1074905
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I use the big clips they sell at grocery stores for clamping bags of potato chips shut to keep them from spoiling. One clamp across the spine seems to work pretty well.


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Big paper clip.

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Re: how to keep score book pages from flipping? #1074907
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good ideas.. but there remains the problem of page turnng.. my biggest frustration.. maybe there is a computer / software solution to this .. put the laptop on the keyboard and see a moving representation of the sheet music.. I think some Clavinovas have this built in..

Re: how to keep score book pages from flipping? #1074908
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Ive been using wooden-spring type "clothes hanger clips." Cheap, plentiful, they wont scratch the piano and look kind of cool. Unfortunatly, yes you must remove one or more to turn the page. (Try to do this in tempo.)


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Re: how to keep score book pages from flipping? #1074909
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I finally gave up trying to keep the pages open. I now photocopy whatever I am playing so that the pages are free from any bindings.

An extra advantage to this is that I mark them up freely with fingering, comments, etc., without marring the original copies.

When not playing a particular compostion I keep it in a plastic envelop which goes into a ring binder. The music is arranged alphabetically so that I can retrieve something whenever it is wanted. Gaby Tu

Re: how to keep score book pages from flipping? #1074910
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A big hammer usually works great at making the book stay flat.

You could also open your book to the page you want it to stay open at and stack your entire library on top of it.

Just kidding.

Sometimes I use binder clips, but I have a digital piano and it doesn't damage the music stand like it would on a wooden one.

A couple of products that are made for this are:
http://www.musicexpert.com/acc/2630611.html

http://www.ezbookclip.com/testimonials.htm

If you have the money and want to go high tech, you can try:
http://www.freehandsystems.com/
This would help with the page turns, as you can use a pedal to turn the page on the music pad pro.


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Re: how to keep score book pages from flipping? #1074911
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Re: how to keep score book pages from flipping? #1074912
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Well, I know I can count on this forum for suggestions! Thanks.

I did spiral bound some piano books. However since binding them this way loses the book title on the spine, I didn't bind the ones that have the same color, size and looks. Some of the classical scores by the same publisher all look the same! If I get rid of the spine title, I have to pull out each book from the shelf to find the one I am looking for. But this is the best solution in terms of keeping the page open AND having no fuss when turning the page.

For the books I won't spiral-bound, I will use the "chip clip" for now, since I have it right at home. (Compared to the paper clips and wooden clothes pegs, I only need to unclip and reclip once when turning the page.) Now my husband is going to wonder where his chip clip went laugh Hmm, stale tortilla! The two "custom" products that Dragon provided links to also look good - it may be just a bit easier for page-turning. I may get one and see.

I may also try the photocopy idea. But I am afraid over the long run, I may end up owning a good portion of all my books in photocopy format...

As for the the high-tech solution that Dragon provided, I think I will skip. My gosh - $900 eek That's a lot of spiral binds, photocopies and tortilla chips!

Seems like this wasn't such an off-the-wall question after all, since it seems many of us have to deal with it.


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For those who don't have their own photo copier, I have another solution,and that is to buy two copies of everything. Break the spine on one so that the pages are all free,and keep the other in pristine condition. Expensive, but at least you will have a working copy. Gaby Tu

Re: how to keep score book pages from flipping? #1074914
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Originally posted by Colin Askew:
good ideas.. but there remains the problem of page turnng.. my biggest frustration.. maybe there is a computer / software solution to this .. put the laptop on the keyboard and see a moving representation of the sheet music.. I think some Clavinovas have this built in..
That's exactly what I do on my digital. I scan my scores into PDF files which I display on a flat panel that I have in portrait mode on the music desk:

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I have a wireless keyboard that sits right next to me on a table (not in picture) and a quick stab at the enter key turns to the next page.

Also, another suggestion for large bound scores is not to break the spine. Instead, start at the front of the book, about 10 pages in, fold flat. Go to the back of the book, 10 pages in, fold flat. Repeat, working your way to the center. This won't break the spine and it will lay flat more easily.

Better than trashing those Henle scores!


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Re: how to keep score book pages from flipping? #1074915
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Very nice set-up, Greg.

You can also use a foot switch to turn the pages.

I just can't imagine mutilating my scores by sawing off their spines. It seems so wrong on so many levels, but to each his own, I suppose.

Many of my better scores, like my Paderewski, Henle and Peters Editions stay open by themselves.

Most of my Dover Editions don't.

But this is not a problem, since there are literally tens of thousands of scores in the public domain that are available for free online.

Right now on my hard drive I have thousands of pdf scores, many of which are unavailable commercially anywhere in the world.

I print out what I'm working on, or plan to work on, and spread the sheets out on my music deck.

For more than 4 pages, I can fold the music lid down and spread the sheets out flat on my grand.

This doesn't work on my digital, so I tape the pages together and they sit nicely on my music deck.


Mel


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Re: how to keep score book pages from flipping? #1074916
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Originally posted by SunnyR:

I did spiral bound some piano books. However since binding them this way loses the book title on the spine, I didn't bind the ones that have the same color, size and looks. Some of the classical scores by the same publisher all look the same! If I get rid of the spine title, I have to pull out each book from the shelf to find the one I am looking for. But this is the best solution in terms of keeping the page open AND having no fuss when turning the page.
If you have Kinko bind with a comb (instead of a spiral) you can use a label maker to put the title on the solid spine of the comb. The books are then easy to identify while they are on a shelf.

For what it's worth (which is not much) it is really a helical binding, not a spiral binding. wink


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