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#1057566 - 09/08/04 09:03 AM Piano Practice Principles
Bob Muir Offline
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Registered: 11/01/03
Posts: 2653
Loc: Lakewood, WA, USA
I was bored while waiting for a client after restoring some accounting database files from their tape backup and found this nifty treatise:


Very interesting reading. I'm going to print it out and highlight some of the sections.

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#1057567 - 09/08/04 12:07 PM Re: Piano Practice Principles
piqué Offline
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Registered: 06/15/01
Posts: 5485
thanks for sharing this, bob. i'm also printing it out right now and also sent the link to my piano teacher. she uses a lot of these methods, but i bet it will help her to have it all written out and organized like this for her students.

now in paperback:

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#1057568 - 09/08/04 12:16 PM Re: Piano Practice Principles
apple* Offline

Registered: 01/01/03
Posts: 19862
Loc: Kansas
me too. I wish I had this 20 years ago.
accompanist/organist.. a non-MTNA teacher to a few

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#1057569 - 09/08/04 09:16 PM Re: Piano Practice Principles
cathys Offline
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Registered: 04/10/03
Posts: 917
Loc: Virginia
Thanks Bob, more stuff to put in my save file!!


#1057570 - 09/09/04 12:38 AM Re: Piano Practice Principles
HermanM Offline
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Registered: 07/08/04
Posts: 117
Loc: Newport, VA
That is good stuff, Bob. I find myself using many of those techniques already (I'm sure most of us do), but some I'd have never thought of.
I played it better at home.

#1057571 - 09/09/04 07:19 AM Re: Piano Practice Principles
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Registered: 06/18/04
Posts: 83
Loc: USA
Each person learns in a unique way. Because of your experience, background, and abilities, you will learn in a way that is different from the way any other person learns.
I wish I had this 20 years ago.
This is my biggest gripe about piano teachers. They don't recognize that the first fundamental lesson to be learned is HOW TO PRACTICE. How to practice in a way that is productive, without frustration, accepting small steps. As the first quote notes, it is to a certain extent subjective. The student has to learn this for himself. But the teacher can give guidance. The very first question in the first lesson should be from the teacher: Have you learned how to practice? Based on my experience and what I have read over the past four years I would guess there is maybe one teacher in 10 who understands this. Perhaps the reason teachers can't comprehend this is that they all started very young and they don't remember those first steps in learning how to make the piano work. As adults they have a certain control over the KB that they don't know or recall how they got and as teachers the thought never occurs to them.
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"There are no shortcuts to anything worth doing." Beverly Sills

#1057572 - 09/09/04 05:23 PM Re: Piano Practice Principles
signa Offline
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Registered: 06/06/04
Posts: 8483
Loc: Ohio, USA
good link, and is definitely worth looking into. some of those ideas i read before though. thanks!

#1057573 - 09/09/04 07:08 PM Re: Piano Practice Principles
plays88skeys Offline
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Registered: 01/08/04
Posts: 3091
Loc: Richmond, VA
Very helpful advice. Thank you!
There are no shortcuts to any place worth going. - Beverly Sills

#1057574 - 09/09/04 10:57 PM Re: Piano Practice Principles
tk Offline
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Registered: 08/13/04
Posts: 695
Loc: Los Angeles County
Good stuff! Thanks for the link!

#1057575 - 09/10/04 05:47 AM Re: Piano Practice Principles
Neus A. Offline
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Registered: 03/30/04
Posts: 83
Loc: Spain
Thanks Bob,

There are things in this site I had never heard of before, like the "pencil practice".


#1057576 - 09/17/04 08:10 AM Re: Piano Practice Principles
mound Offline
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Registered: 08/10/04
Posts: 782
Loc: Rochester, NY
You all should give this a read:

"You look hopefully for an idea and then you're humble when you find it and you wish your skills were better. To have even a half-baked touch of creativity is an honor."
-- Ernie Stires, composer

#1057577 - 09/18/04 12:00 PM Re: Piano Practice Principles
Pathbreaker Offline
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Registered: 09/18/04
Posts: 1248
Loc: Massachusetts
thanks for sharing those linds, they are really useful \:\)


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