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#105708 - 02/28/07 08:45 AM Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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I'm wondering if anyone out there is familiar with the Malmsjo brand of pianos, specifically their grands? We're in the process of buying our first piano and one of the local technicians has a 6'3" one for sale. I don't know what year the piano is as the manufacturer isn't listed in Pierce's Piano Atlas. It does have 85 keys which would help to date it somewhat I'm sure.

This particular piano has solid wood construction, not veneers. Perhaps this is standard for the manufacturer, I don't know. Agraffes which the technician compared to Bechstein (I thought Agraffes were common in grands?). Other details like sliding music desk and brass hardware on lid prop piece. In the technician's opinion this attention to detail speaks to the quality of the construction.

As far as sound, even an indepedent technician said the sound was good - nice bass. In truth most of the pianos I've looked at sound fine......my ear it seems is not terribly discriminating.

Hopefully there's someone out there who can fill in the gaps on this manufacturer. Thanks!

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#105709 - 02/28/07 11:25 AM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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Malmsjo is in Pierce. It is a Swedish piano, no longer made. I have only seen one. Chances are it is veneered construction. Veneering is a better way to make piano cases than solid wood.


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#105710 - 02/28/07 11:36 AM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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I've actually played a Malmsjo piano. It was around a 6 footer and played/sounded really well. I'm not a tech and I coudn't tell it's condition during the five minutes i played it but I wouldn't have minded playing more. What I did notice is that the piano had the largest curved rear i've ever seen-The piano was almost shaped like a rectangle!

This probably doesn't help much but it's my only experience with a Malmsjo.

#105711 - 03/01/07 02:30 PM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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Malmsjö was one of the best Swedish piano manufacturers. The old Swedish makes generally were excellent. The Swedes had access to great wood and they are meticulous like the germans.

Today there are no piano manufacturers left in Sweden.


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#105712 - 03/01/07 03:31 PM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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My Swedish friends all tell me the same thing. I've not worked with one in the flesh, but Sampletekk's White Grand is a sampled Malmsjö that's quite spectacular sounding. My own personal impression drawn from the sound of the samples is that it must be a bright and alive piano in a sweet kind of way.

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#105713 - 03/01/07 11:21 PM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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We restored one of these several years ago. It was indeed veneered.

All said and done, it turned out to be a lovely sounding instrument.


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#105714 - 03/01/07 11:38 PM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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How is it pronounced?

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#105715 - 03/02/07 12:14 AM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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I have seen pictures of Malmsjo grands with unusual shapes. They have a curved hammer "line" which distorts the shape of the piano quite a bit.


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How is it pronounced?

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uh, rhymes with Hawaii ?
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#105717 - 03/02/07 02:08 AM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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Here is the pronounciation in Swedish:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/z6l622

CTPianotech,

Do you have Swedish ancestry? Your surname looks Swedish to me.


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#105718 - 03/03/07 03:57 PM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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Hmmm...

I took the trouble to record the pronounciation of the Swedish manufacturer Malmsjö and nobody seems interested. :rolleyes:


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#105719 - 03/03/07 06:41 PM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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pianistical,
I listened to it three times but it all happens so fast that it is near impossible to understand.
Add to that the the Swedish language is difficult to begin with and I am still fairly clueless as to its Swedish pronounciation. But thats OK.
Thanks for the effort. It is appreciated.

Mike


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#105720 - 03/03/07 08:02 PM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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I listened to it too and was no further ahead!

This piano is in the shop I work at. We are pronouncing it "Mahm-sho" which I think, having lived in Norway a few years, is reasonably close.


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#105721 - 03/03/07 09:22 PM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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Thanks to all for responding to my post. laugh

I now have a few more details and thanks to pianistical I can almost pronounce the name!

Corrie

#105722 - 03/04/07 03:42 AM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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I used to have a very nice Malmsjö upright and I have heard that the best grands can be spectacular.

I have updated the soundfile with a clearer pronounciation.


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#105723 - 03/04/07 05:45 AM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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Here is the pronounciation in Swedish:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/z6l622

CTPianotech,

Do you have Swedish ancestry? Your surname looks Swedish to me.
Well, I would have never guessed the pronunciation of the second syllable, so thanks!

Oh, and yes, one grandparent on both sides of my family were Swedish. smile


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#105724 - 03/04/07 09:42 AM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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The ö in Malmsjö is actually pronounced similarly to the ö in Bösendorfer, Swedish and German both being germanic languages.


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#105725 - 03/07/07 05:45 AM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand?  
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I think pianistical have made a great effort.

MALM-SJÖ

The first syllable MALM like Englih CALM but starting with a M

SJ like SH in English shy

Ö like final vocal sound in french MONSIEUR or PEUT or EUX

Swedish is not as simple to pronounce as Finnish or Italian, but a lot easier than English and French! (My native tongue is Swedísh, so I ougth to knoww, ha-ha!)

#1714116 - 07/15/11 06:00 PM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand? [Re: pianistical]  
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Originally Posted by pianistical
I used to have a very nice Malmsjö upright and I have heard that the best grands can be spectacular.

I have updated the soundfile with a clearer pronounciation.


Very interesting indeed!

Some time ago I was going to to buy a digital piano/keyboard. But everything took an unexpected turn.

Instead of a digital keyboard, I bought an old Malmsjö 9 ft concert grand, at a very low cost! A wonderful sound, although not perfect.

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Here is a link you might enjoy:

http://www.artvista.net/Malmsjo_Acoustic_Grand.html

Click on the MAG 2.0 Manual to the left, and you will get the story of Malmsjö Piano Factory, testimonials from famous composers etc.


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#1714151 - 07/15/11 07:29 PM Re: Malmsjo Grand - anyone familiar with brand? [Re: Corrie]  
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Originally Posted by BDB

That seems to be a somewhat distorted perspective of the banana grand. If I´m not totally wrong that is an instrument stored in some museum collection. Unfortunately a former owner painted it blue.


I found a picture of a black banana grand:

http://dayviews.com/kunstharmonium/445223931/


My attempt of translating the text (in swedish) below the picture:

"Was in Värmland and tried this one. Want it to be mine. It is a so called banana grand piano, Malmsjö made just approx 25 of them. The interesting thing is that it is bent the wrong way! Looks like a banana.
The reason was to make a grand piano with strings long enough, and reverb enough, to compete with Steinway, Bösendorfer and the like. It is 3 meter long (10 ft)! When I slammed a chord with double octave bass, it ROARED!"



Here´s another picture (last pic on that page):
http://piano.sptf.com/?p=112

Also: http://www.klaverenshus.se/Hammarinstrument.html
(search for "bananflygel")

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Just visually, the "banana" grand does have one of the most appealing piano interiors I've seen. Even the ends of the plate struts have some curves designed into them, so the interior is mostly graceful curves, and the straight bridge works well with the rest.

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I have seen a photo of the action from one of those pianos, with a big curve in the hammer rail. That must have been something to make.

The straight bridge leads me to think that they made the dummy concert grand used in the Swedish film of Alexis Weissenberg playing the Three Movements from Petroushka back in the 1960s.


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There was a website some years back that hosted a comparison of a Malmsjo to a similar-sized Steinway, with the same fine artist recording the same piece (Debussy's "Reverie") in the same room. I've still got the recordings and have listened to them numerous times over the years. I still much prefer the warm voice of that Malmsjo.

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I am restoring a Banana Great Grand Malmsjo piano at my workshop now in Singapore !

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Show us some photos!


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Reply to Kwan Ek Sion:

So YOU was the one who bought the huge banana grand from a piano collector in Värmland (about 1½ year ago)!

I intended to buy that specific one, but too late. Sold.

Congratulations! You made a real bargain.

I would love to hear it in action one day (and maybe even play on it).


I am going to restore my Malmsjö grand this summer.

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