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#1056216 - 01/05/09 01:05 AM Bass Clef  
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When you have known how to read music on the Treble clef for almost 35 years, how do you retrain your brain to read the Bass clef? My brain just automatically reads them like it is on the Treble clef.

I'm thinking there must be a method that will click in my head quickly since I understand the concept of reading music already. Or maybe my old brain is resisting.

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#1056217 - 01/05/09 02:43 AM Re: Bass Clef  
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Originally posted by BarbVA:
When you have known how to read music on the Treble clef for almost 35 years, how do you retrain your brain to read the Bass clef? My brain just automatically reads them like it is on the Treble clef.

I'm thinking there must be a method that will click in my head quickly since I understand the concept of reading music already. Or maybe my old brain is resisting.
Hi Barb. I picked up the viola at age 50, and so had to learn to read alto clef fluently (as opposed to working it out laboriously, which I could already do, and I guess you can with the bass clef, too). I used what I use with beginning piano students - a so-called "landmark" approach. Pick a note and learn to recognise it instantly. Count others from this one. Then add another one, and count steps to get the ones in between. Good ones to use for bass clef are the Cs (and observe the symmetry of the positioning in bass and treble clefs) and F below middle C. I found the process very interesting, as it gave me insight into the problems some of my students were having.
And I can read alto clef just about as well as the other two now. The Brain Still Works! smile


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#1056218 - 01/05/09 02:48 PM Re: Bass Clef  
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Originally posted by BarbVA:
. . . how do you retrain your brain to read the Bass clef?

. . .I'm thinking there must be a method . . .
Yes, there is an exciting fool-proof method for this - it's called "the old-fashioned way" (i.e., lots of consistent and concentrated practice over an extended period) - it's not a shortcut, but it is sure-fire!

Regards, JF


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#1056219 - 01/05/09 03:41 PM Re: Bass Clef  
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Barb,
One thing that helped me was to quiz myself by saying: "Bass clef: first line G, second line B etc. first space A second space C etc. then i would mix it up. Fourth space G and so on.

I would also just repeat G-B-D-F-A (for the lines and A-C-E-G (for the spaces). repetition is the key. It also helps to visualize it as well. and then go and look at some lines of music and quiz your self that way.

I really don't know why this is not taught as all one unit... seems to be a common thing that people have an easier time with the treble clef but not the bass clef.
good luck.


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#1056220 - 01/05/09 06:01 PM Re: Bass Clef  
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A link which I picked up once:

http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,2713.msg23282.html

schwammerl.

#1056221 - 01/06/09 11:37 AM Re: Bass Clef  
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I have been finding this online exercise to be very useful:

http://www.emusictheory.com/practice/pianoKeys.html

It presents random notes on the staves and calls for a response on the simulated keyboard.

You can select treble clef, bass cleff, or both at the same time. And it can be done with your mouse, so I practice it about 10 to 15 minutes every day (I'm a total newbie). However, if you buy the program, it can also be set up for a midi keyboard.


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#1056222 - 01/06/09 11:54 AM Re: Bass Clef  
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I just think one step down. But like JF stated, lots of practice and those notes become yours.


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