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#1053365 - 12/02/08 04:44 AM Hello I have a question  
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Hello I just joined these forums and they look really interesting and friendly.

I have a final fantasy VII sheet called Final Fantasy Prelude.The song is very simple and is in the key C Major but it has arpeggios that go really far up and down the piano.I can start to play the song but I'm not used to going that far on the piano.Are there any practices that I can do to get better at arpeggios like this.

here is someone playing it on youtube for anyone who has not heard it. Final Fantasy Prelude

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#1053366 - 12/02/08 05:03 AM Re: Hello I have a question  
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To get better at arpeggios....you just need to practice them. Make sure you're using correct fingering and when you bring your thumb/third finger over depending on which hand the arpeggios are in don't twist your wrist much, just pulling the finger over will give better accuracy and speed.
The only way to get better at arpeggios is to practice them.


Chopin: Nocturne No. 15 in Fm. Op. 55 no.1.
#1053367 - 12/02/08 05:07 AM Re: Hello I have a question  
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Thank you

But my problem is I have never moved my hands that much.I can do the arpeggios fine in both hands but I haven't moved my hands that far what I was trying to say is how to do repeated arpeggios on the piano at very a wide range.

#1053368 - 12/02/08 05:24 AM Re: Hello I have a question  
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I'm sorry if that last post was a little rude I was just frustrated with not being able to move my hands that far.What type of practice for arpeggios is good at moving them across the whole piano well.When I do their fingering it seems to be really hard to move them.Should I just try to jump them to the next octave and play in position.By the way I have only played for around six months so I'm still getting the hang of basic stuff with my Alfred's book.

opps I didn't see edit sorry for the double post.

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#1053369 - 12/02/08 06:09 AM Re: Hello I have a question  
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Well, like I said, the only way to really get down arpeggios is to practice them. Even if it's all the way up the piano. First practice getting a very clean two octave, then branch out to three, then add a fourth, and if you can do clean four you should be able to go any distance that you need to from there. What are the exact notes you're playing? Is it just straight normal arpeggios?
If so, just practice building your arpeggios past one octave, up an up. They take time to learn to do well. You'll need to get very good at pulling your thumb under your hand to get to the next octave. You'll need to work quite a bit at this.
In the video you posted he basically shows you what you need to do. While the right hand is ascending, you'll pull the thumb under to reach the next octave and then move the rest of your hand up from there to play in position. With the left hand you you'll the third finger up after you play the octave with you're thumb. That's for ascending.
Descending you'll need to basically do the opposite, the right hand fingering is now the left hands while the left hand's is the right hands now.
Do you have a teacher? If so, ask him to show you how to do these. I can only explain so much through text online.


Chopin: Nocturne No. 15 in Fm. Op. 55 no.1.
#1053370 - 12/02/08 10:53 AM Re: Hello I have a question  
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Hi PG,
I know it seems intimidating but if you just play only the arppegios over and over-just take your time and play them in each octave-maybe even have a goal and say I will do this 5 times in a row-its doesnt have to sound great or be perfect, you might even have to search for the right notes at first. But the more you move around on the keyboard the more comfortable you will feel and before you know it you will be able to play them with your eyes closed.
(sorry if this reply seems like rambling-I'm not the best writer-LOL)


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#1053371 - 12/02/08 11:19 AM Re: Hello I have a question  
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Someone posted a YouTube of Liberace. The first thing I noticed was his excellent arpeggio tecnique.

Try taking a look at that. I found it helpful.


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#1053372 - 12/02/08 12:49 PM Re: Hello I have a question  
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Originally posted by xxmynameisjohnxx:
Well, like I said, the only way to really get down arpeggios is to practice them. Even if it's all the way up the piano. First practice getting a very clean two octave, then branch out to three, then add a fourth, and if you can do clean four you should be able to go any distance that you need to from there. What are the exact notes you're playing? Is it just straight normal arpeggios?
If so, just practice building your arpeggios past one octave, up an up. They take time to learn to do well. You'll need to get very good at pulling your thumb under your hand to get to the next octave. You'll need to work quite a bit at this.
In the video you posted he basically shows you what you need to do. While the right hand is ascending, you'll pull the thumb under to reach the next octave and then move the rest of your hand up from there to play in position. With the left hand you you'll the third finger up after you play the octave with you're thumb. That's for ascending.
Descending you'll need to basically do the opposite, the right hand fingering is now the left hands while the left hand's is the right hands now.
Do you have a teacher? If so, ask him to show you how to do these. I can only explain so much through text online.
Thanks I tried to really study the hands in the video and I'm up to three clean octaves.The ones in the Prelude are hard because they are c d e g instead of c e g

#1053373 - 12/02/08 05:18 PM Re: Hello I have a question  
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Oh yeah sometimes adding in an extra note can be a pain, but you just have to make sure you practice. That's the only way to get better at arpeggios, practice em. A year and a half ago I couldn't do any arpeggios well, my old teacher didn't force me to, but now I can play pretty much any arpeggio as far as needed.
For the CDEG I'd use [left hand] C with 5, D with 4, E with 3, G with 2, octave C with 1, then bring the fourth finger over the top and continue.
Right hand I'd use C with 1, D with 2, E with 3, G with 4, then bring the thumb under and hit the octave C with 1. Kay?


Chopin: Nocturne No. 15 in Fm. Op. 55 no.1.
#1053374 - 12/02/08 06:45 PM Re: Hello I have a question  
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Thanks a lot the left hand fingering helped me a lot :-)


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