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Re: OT: Pictures of Summer #1047959
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Key Note, yes some compare poi to wallpaper paste.(sorry Lizzy's Dad) I must say I have developed a taste for it with some foods. Interesting it is supposed to be a great food for touchy guts and babies. I tried feeding it to my son when he was young...I must say I look much better in purple than I expected!
laugh I love purple on me too, in garment forms and when applied by me only.

Yes, I'm sure it's one of the many perfect foods for most anyone, not just babies, especially when it has such high calcium contents thus helps with building and strenghtening of bones and teeths. = smile

Oh yes, sorry Lizzy's Dad. Just think, it'll be that much more Poi for you. smile


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Re: OT: Pictures of Summer #1047960
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Hello Keynotes,

Just a doller. Thats all I paid for "Chief", and that was 7 yrs ago. He is an angel in horse clothing.
And just to let ya know. I havent has a chance to get to my Alfreds piano book yet. Im hoping to get seriouse about it this coming week. Ive only had a chance to practice for like 15m a day this last week. My daughter just finished up her last ballet performance ( its quite a hoot seeing 4 yr olds on stage ). So now my summer officially starts. YIPEEE!!!!

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Hello Keynotes,

Just a doller. Thats all I paid for "Chief", and that was 7 yrs ago. He is an angel in horse clothing.
And just to let ya know. I havent has a chance to get to my Alfreds piano book yet. Im hoping to get seriouse about it this coming week. Ive only had a chance to practice for like 15m a day this last week. My daughter just finished up her last ballet performance ( its quite a hoot seeing 4 yr olds on stage ). So now my summer officially starts. YIPEEE!!!!

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I can image, she must look so cute in those tu-tus. Yes, hooray for spring, summer and fall. I only tolerate the cold of winters for the beautiful sceneries and skiing.

Better get going on that Alfred's or we'll have to take away some saddle times from you. laugh


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Re: OT: Pictures of Summer #1047962
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My daughter just finished up her last ballet performance ( its quite a hoot seeing 4 yr olds on stage ).
AspenX laugh [/QB]
How can you deny us pictures of your 4 yr old in her outfit? frown

Here's my 5 yr old in his first piano recital, only after 2 months of lessons. He nailed it. wink
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My daughter just finished up her last ballet performance ( its quite a hoot seeing 4 yr olds on stage ).
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How can you deny us pictures of your 4 yr old in her outfit? frown

Here's my 5 yr old in his first piano recital, only after 2 months of lessons. He nailed it. wink
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Ooh, so cute and talented too!

BTW, Mr. LaValse said that he's watching his figure so you can pass on that laulau to me. laugh


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Re: OT: Pictures of Summer #1047964
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Ratman--Thanks for that detailed description of your picture. Your anecdote about throwaway percentage was really eye-opening. It's like when I hear someone play something beautiful and ask how long they've been working on it and hear "three years at an hour a day." All the sudden it doesn't seem like magic!

I've never done much photography, but reading your explanation makes me want to give it a shot. I'd like to get a nice digital camera; we used to have a nice Pentax SLR with lots of lenses, and it took beautiful pictures. I haven't been too happy with what I've seen from other people in digital pictures (colors that are not found in nature is a big problem, I've noticed). Do you have some camera or characteristics of cameras that you could recommend if I were to go digital?

Thanks,

Nancy


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Wow, Ratman, thanks for the info. I usually let the camera set the f-stop and ISO. I need to go back and make sure the ISO is at 100. I think the idea about taking the image stablizer off is an interesting one and one I would never have thought of until now. Your comments about keeper ratio is excellent. This is the first month of digital cameras for me (yes, I used film up until now, yes I am a dinosaur) I think I still skimp on shots because I still have a film mentality. The only problem with panning well is I am afraid they are going to run over me (don't tell polostrings!). I think I flinch when they go by. I going to work on it this Sunday and let you know.
You're very welcome. Don't feel too bad about just entering the digital world. I've used digital point and shoot cameras for a long time but always used an ancient Pentax (I bought it in 1968) for "quality shots." Well, that came to an end in 06 when I came to a couple of amazing conclusions: First, the cost of processing the film was killing me and second, I couldn't get timely, quality processing done without paying an arm and a leg for it. That's when I threw a temper tantrum and bought the Canon. Best darned temper tantrum I ever threw. smile

And to be honest about the image stabilization thing, I was blaming some of my non-keepers on the lack of IS in my lenses. It was only when I started asking some more experienced shooters about it that I was able to understand it for what it really is. If you're gonna be shooting landscapes or wildlife in low light situations, then it would be a great thing. But so are a tripod and a remote shutter release.

In regards to flinching as the horses go by...well, I can tell ya that although it doesn't scare me to be close to the track (I was an SCCA corner worker for a lot of years) I'm not quite crazy enough to stand real close to the racing surface without an armco barrier between me and the track, especially in areas where cars might end up inadvertently. Check out the sequence of this spinning Camaro and you'll see that while it came within a couple dozen feet of me, I was behind a barrier and off to the side of the car's direction. I must have felt fairly confident because I just kept shooting (in motor-drive mode) while the car looped in front of me. Back to your situation, I think that if I were in your shoes, I'd back up and extend the lens a bit. It's kind of a mixed blessing because it's a little harder to stay focused with a longer focal length, but it's also easier to stay focused. I know that doesn't make any sense, but I think it's based in fact. If I have my lens zoomed out to where the car almost completely fills the viewfinder, it's very hard to keep the camera on the subject. But if I zoom out a little and give myself some "cropping room" (not too much, cuz the quality can suffer...experimentation will give you a feel for it....and you can check the images in the display after shooting to see how effective your setting was. That's almost reflexive for people using digital SLRs) it's easier to keep the subject in the frame...maybe not in the center, but at least close enough so that some post-processing can take care of things.

And since you're relatively new to this, I'd suggest a lot of experimentation...it might help to have a notepad to make some entries about the setting used at a given time. What I did is exactly what I'm suggesting to you. Since the track where I do the sports car photos is a long one (Miller Motorsports Park near Tooele, Utah...4.4 miles in its full-length configuration) I started by setting the camera to "sports/action" mode and shooting that way for a lap or two. That would give me nice crisp shots...of both the car and the background. Sometimes those are nice...especially if you catch a car with flames shooting from the exhaust. There are several examples of that on this and the next few pages.

Then for the next lap or two I'd try 1 500/th, then 320, then 250 and so on down to about 1/100th and examine the results. In doing this, I had a very low keeper ratio, but I learned a lot from it. And again, who cares about the number of throwaways with digital images? Btw, I don't know what size memory card you have, but I have 2 cards of 2 gig each, plus a spare battery. I think I'll end up getting a 4 gig card before I head out for the salt flats in August. I had to borrow a card from another photographer one day last weekend because we ended up inside the track and I couldn't cross the racing surface until I had permission from the corner workers, who had to ask race control to declare the track safe to cross.
Here\'s the other guy\'s (Paul Watson) site.

One more site, this one belongs to ...rganization that ran last week\'s races.

The first guy (Paul) uses a Canon 350D like mine. The second (Larry) uses a Nikon D300. But our shots come out pretty close to one another, although Paul tends to use less pan blur than I do but his photos are very good...well composed, sharp and well organized.

I had this brain cramp and decided to google "polo photography." There were some hits, but I didn't look all that closely to see if there was a site with some guidelines about that particular aspect of photography. However, you might try it to see if there's something that can be helpful to you.

Finally, it hit me that one of the other photographers (the wife of the #55 stock car) gave me a card from a guy named David Allio. He lives in Hawaii (Kauai) and does photo workshops. The reason he was recommended to me is that he's an ex-NASCAR photographer and does workshops 2 or 3 times a year in Las Vegas. I'm wondering if it's a possibility for me to attend one of 'em. Can't do it this year, but maybe next. Here's his web site: David Allio Photography

One of the things Trudy told me is that he emphasizes increasing the keeper ratio to a very high rate (like 80 percent or so) and teaches techniques that are geared to that end. She said that he's a very helpful guy and was happy to answer any questions she'd had. His main area of emphasis seems to be nature and landscape shots of Kauai and the photos on his site are beautiful. Might wanna check it out.

Ok...I think I've rambled on long enough. Happy shooting.


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Re: OT: Pictures of Summer #1047966
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Polostrings & Key notes,
Here is my little girl in her Tu Tu. I would not deny the opportunity to show off my "little ballerina".

Ballet class $34.00/month
costume $56.00
The look on my little girls face at the end of her 1st recital: PRICELESS......
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Polo Strings, What did you rlittle boy play for his first recital??? He is too cute. I like how he cant reach the floor with his feet. Tooo Cute!!!!Kenzie wont start piano till she is "6.

I hope this pic comes out laugh
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Re: OT: Pictures of Summer #1047967
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Hey Key notes & Polostrings,

Whats "Poi" and "Taro" ????? Is it anything like sushi????

Polostrings, Is your son taking lessons????

AspenX laugh

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/kaylaxtreme/April2008080.jpg

She wants to play just like "Mommi" !!!!

Keynotes, I used to ski during my college years before I had kids, and before I realized how cold and expensive it was. I miss it frown . Hopefully soon I will hit Tahoe again!!!.




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Re: OT: Pictures of Summer #1047968
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aspenxtreme, OMG! She is so cute! The ballet and piano photos are priceless. (polostrings had tears in his eyes!) This time won't last forever, you have to cherish it.

Poi is mashed up, boiled taro (like a sweet potato). It's considered a staple in polynesian culture. It can be very thin or thick depending on how much water you add. We say "two finger poi" or "three finger poi" depending how many fingers it takes to eat it. It can be quite sour if left alone for a few days.

Ratman, tried some different techniques today and realized a few things,
The horses won't run in a straight line in front of me! I asked polostrings to forget the game and run back and forth at an even speed. He didn't think his team mates would like that.
Also the horses move up and down as they run, making the panning more difficult. I took a bunch of shots with ISO at 100 and 200 and f stop at 1/60 and up. I'll review and let you know. The keeper ratio today is about 1:800! I did try using the image stablizer and turned it off as well. We'll see how it turns out. I have to go back thru your last post to check out the links in depth. Thanks again for all the help.


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Poi...2 day old, 2 finger...ono...hungry...kalua pig, aku poki, opihi, spicy pickled limu, laulau with pork AND butterfish, lumpy squid luau, creamy haupia, and the Makaha Sons of Ni'ihau on the boom box...

A summer memory...high school graduation luaus. I think I'm missing a few. ...$900 round trip tickets...

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Ratman, tried some different techniques today and realized a few things,
The horses won't run in a straight line in front of me! I asked polostrings to forget the game and run back and forth at an even speed. He didn't think his team mates would like that.
Also the horses move up and down as they run, making the panning more difficult. I took a bunch of shots with ISO at 100 and 200 and f stop at 1/60 and up. I'll review and let you know. The keeper ratio today is about 1:800! I did try using the image stablizer and turned it off as well. We'll see how it turns out. I have to go back thru your last post to check out the links in depth. Thanks again for all the help.
I understand your problem. It's somewhat akin to the one I mentioned if cars accelerating on a short straight and then jumping on the brakes hard for the next turn. I spose photographers who shoot things like motocross might have the same sort of problems.

I wish I could think of an easy solution off the top of my head...but I can't. Well, maybe that's not true. How about a bokeh effect? If you were to use a long lens with a large aperture and a fast shutter speed, you might be able to get the horse in focus with the background out of focus...it would be blurred, but from bokeh, not panning. Might work. Besides...I needed an excuse to post this photo from last Saturday:

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The flying quail radiator cap emblem was pretty popular as a Ford accessory on Model As and 32s. The circular polarizer filter seems to have captured the reflective flare as a sorta sunburst effect.

The quail and the blue oval are in sharp focus but the background is blurred...but there was no movement, just a shallow depth of field, or "bokeh."

Now...back to Locatelli and Ian Stewart.

hth,


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Kawai,
O.K sweet potatoe is good. Ill have to try that sometime. Im a sushi lover. And not the cooked to death kind. I like the raw tuna and salmon. Yum Yum.

And with Lizzy's Dads' talk about all that yummy food, I will have to add a trip to Hawaii to my list of things to do before I get old. Ha Ha. Maybe i'll try polo too!!!!!

Thank you for all the compliments on my daughter. I better get going, she has gymnastics this morning, and im going to try and get some serious piano practicing in today.

Hi Rat Man, I got your private message a while ago, sorry I didnt answer back. Im a flake. Thanks though. Ive given up on trying to get to your website. My husband says that for some reason its just not working. Oh well, thanks for trying. laugh

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Re: OT: Pictures of Summer #1047972
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Polo Strings, What did you rlittle boy play for his first recital??? He is too cute. I like how he cant reach the floor with his feet. Tooo Cute!!!!
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Sorry to torture the forum with our family stuff. But I can't resist. Here's Gavin's performance. He's taken lessons for 2 months, a friend from preschool was taking lessons , so he asked to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwkiPR_EfiU

I borrowed the Chrono Cross theme done by our own KawaiGirl, hope she doesn't mind.

I'm glan I have a son, a little princess would just constantly break my heart. frown I would just be a puddle. Oh wait, I am a puddle now. laugh


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Sorry, I AGAIN , forgot to log the Mrs out. The above post was me , Polostrings, not Kawai, HI. mad


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Ratman, great shot with the quail emblem!

Here's a shot of my son Kawai, HI took. I'll have her discuss with you about it. ( I know it's getting confusing, but I upload photos for her)
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Wow Wow Wow Wow.... Oh my gosh that was beautifull, Oh I had tears in my eyes. And I found myself clapping!!!! Way tooo precious. And where was that recital at??? was that a church that overlooks the ocean!!! THats it, im moving to Hawaii. I grew up in Santa Barbara, so I am a beach bum myself. I miss the ocean sooo much. And your son is just sooo handsome. He is Polynesian?? and Hawaiin??? just a guess.

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I thought I would throw in a pic of me and my kids. :rolleyes: Its not the best pic of Kenzie but you all know what she looks like. My son hates to have his pic taken (unless he is showing off on our quad) so I dont have many of him.

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AspenX, your son is as handsome as your daughter is cute.

Polo/Kawai, Gavin is *very* cute. (I wonder if there are other husband/wife members on ABF. Oh, and if they forget to log out and commit ID thefts on each other! laugh )


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Hi Rosy,
How are you? I see you found me again, showing off my kids shocked

Although I think my kids have some tough competition. Gavin looks like he is going to be a true heartbreaker!!!! And he plays piano. What a super cute kid!!!!

Thanks for posting the pics Kawaii and PoloStrings. Its nice to find someone else that loves horses as much as I do. And for us to have such wonderfull kids, thats just a bonus. Does Gavin like riding????

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lizzy's dad, Matsumoto shave ice.... with or without beans?

Ratman, again, nice photo. I'm a big fan of the long lens, short depth of field - especially for portaits. See above photo that polostrings posted for me (sometimes as me). I like the late day light, typically at the beach, with a polarizing lens (if the light will allow).

Thanks aspenxtreme and Rosanna for the kind words about my son. I think he's cute too, but I'm his mom, I'm suppose to. He's half filipino and half haole (white). In Hawaii we call that "hapa" - means half. I agree with Rosanna, aspenx your son is a cutie too.


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Kawai,

Where did I get polynesian from??? I dont know. Gavin is a cool mix. IM "Hapa" and my kids are very "Hapa". Thats funny that you use that term. I thought only Japanese used that term. Im half black, half Japanese, so my kids are Japanese, black, and white. They are beyond "Hapa".

I better git to my piano practicing or else I will have to kick myself off of the "MOYD" list for this year.

Ill chat with everyone again soon, AspenX




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Thanks, Polostrings. Gotcha, Kawai..I love the potrait with the soft background. Do ya think that same concept might work with the horse shots?

AspenX, no problem. I wish I had a real good answer about accessing my server...but I don't. frown One of the problems of bein a little guy running his own server on a dsl line. I've been running it for 11 years, but I don't know how long it'll be possible to continue as the big ones gobble up the little ones. Oh, well...never give up, never surrender.


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Re: OT: Pictures of Summer #1047981
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Ratman--Thanks for that detailed description of your picture. Your anecdote about throwaway percentage was really eye-opening. It's like when I hear someone play something beautiful and ask how long they've been working on it and hear "three years at an hour a day." All the sudden it doesn't seem like magic!

I've never done much photography, but reading your explanation makes me want to give it a shot. I'd like to get a nice digital camera; we used to have a nice Pentax SLR with lots of lenses, and it took beautiful pictures. I haven't been too happy with what I've seen from other people in digital pictures (colors that are not found in nature is a big problem, I've noticed). Do you have some camera or characteristics of cameras that you could recommend if I were to go digital?

Thanks,

Nancy
I can really relate to the "three years at an hour a day." I've had the same sort of inspiration from a rock guitarist who's quoted as saying "I went home and played for 6 hours a day for two years." That still inspires me when I get burned out, discouraged or "plateaued."

About cameras: I used a Pentax Spotmatic for years. I still have it. Great camera...for the last century. There are two major players in the digital SLR area at this time, and they seem to trade top ratings with each new release. That's Canon and Nikon. You can spend a whole lotta money trying to stay on top of the heap. The cameras I'd recommend would be either the Canon 40D (the one I'd like to upgrade to) or the Nikon D300. They seem to have all the features that one would want in a DSLR...which would be too long a list to write here.

At a little lower price (but still good cameras) are the Canon Rebel XT or XTi.

I've never owned a Nikon, so I can't comment, but I know there are millions of owners who love 'em.

So I guess it comes down to which one feels right to you. I'd really suggest trying both out before making a purchase. That's how I became sold on the Canon.

As a note about coloration: I post-process all my keepers. That includes color correction. Many times false color is due to a cheap lens, but since so much of a digital camera is computer controlled, there are many, many things that can cause color or other exposure aberrations. And the size of the photos as unloaded from the camera is huge. This allows the great quality seen in good digital photos. But they need to be resized to be useful, especially via the web or email. So while cropping and resizing, I automatically color-correct and adjust exposure and sharpness. I used Photoshop for a long time, but just recently started using Corel's Paint Shop Pro. Very nice program for $80. Beats the $600 list for Photoshop.

PM me if there are any specifics you'd like to discuss. I've probably rambled too much about photography on a piano forum, anyway. smile

Maybe I otta go practice some baroque basso continuo...and maybe some blues, too.


RatMan
1961 Hammond M-101, Casio Digital kb, a coupla basses and some other stuff.
Canon 40D and a half-full camera bag.
If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing (I ain't thru doin the camera thing.)
http://www.chevyasylum.com
http://www.raytherat.com
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Hi Everyone, what sentational summer shots and videos you all have. I love them! cool

lizzy's dad, I can't deal with reading and imagining all of your scrumptious islands' culinary list. thumb

RatMan, I have an old Sony digital which I would like to upgrade sometime too, so I definitely appreciate all of your words of wisdoms on the topic of photography and digital cameras as well. I shall have to tap into this bank of knowledge also.

And I can definitely see why you would want to take a workshop with that David Allio, what FABULOUS photographs he creates. I hope you get to go too.

Best regards,

Key Notes smile


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...with, of course! Banana, Strawberry, Grape...looks gross when melted.

smile

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Originally posted by Kawai, HI:
Sorry to torture the forum with our family stuff. But I can't resist. Here's Gavin's performance. He's taken lessons for 2 months, a friend from preschool was taking lessons , so he asked to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwkiPR_EfiU

Gavin is truly adorable. You are justifiably proud of that young man! What a beautiful church as well. Great job, Gavin!


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aspenxtreme, you and your family would fit right in here in Hawaii. Everyone is a wonderful mix of everything. It's hard to find anyone who is 100% any one thing. My son does have that pacific rim look. It's hard to guess what his background is. When we're on the mainland people think he is latino.

Ratman, I don't know if you use a Mac but I find the iPhoto program pretty good for minor adjustments in photos.

lizzy's dad, with, with ice cream and lilikoi and lycee. Don't care how it looks...sooooo ono!

Key Notes and TX-Dennis thanks for the kind words for my son. Polostrings and I are blessed behond belief.


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Kawai,

IM "Hapa" and my kids are very "Hapa". Thats funny that you use that term. I thought only Japanese used that term. Im half black, half Japanese, so my kids are Japanese, black, and white. They are beyond "Hapa".
I'm Hapa.......half Japanese, half Haole, grew up on Oahu, often went to Mokuleia, watched some Polo although I didn't really know much about it; I went out there when Prince Charles visited long time ago. Sometimes when I needed to just get away, I'd drive to Haleiwa, sit on the wall and watch the sunset, then drive back home to reality.

My neighbors are from Hawaii too. Even though I've been on the mainland for 16 years, my 24 years on Oahu are "home" to me, especially since both of my parents are buried at Punchbowl.

Nice to have Hawaii connections on the forum. I miss being able to pick papayas off my own trees but at least Hawaiian papayas are available here, when I can afford them! They're luxury items! Oh well, I have blueberries and strawberries in my backyard now, which are equally fantastic. smile


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ice cream, shaved ice and azuki beans...ono, but wow, too much sugar for me now.

Maybe a piece of guava chiffon cake from DeLite Bakery...sweet, but subtle.

KeyNotes, don't get me started on da food. smile Too bad I can't eat much of it anymore. frown

...used to get sick pigging out on lilikoi, guava or mountain apples we'd scavenge from the valley trails around Sacred Falls...or the big lichee trees that used line California Ave in Wahiawa...or the time we wound up with a station wagon full of ripe royal pineapples...

...innocent child, ...magical days, bright shinning days, the beautiful days of my youth. (k lee)

OBTW, Kawai..your family is so beautiful. Thank you for sharing.

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Please... Everyone, don't even get into the tropical fruits areas. But okay, I can't resist either, nothing like fresh picked anything...mangoes, guavas, lichees still clinging to the branches, and the fragrances of mountain apples, plumerias, ginger blossoms, coconut juice and fresh-squeezed sugar kane juice...oh sweetnest... I better stop. On top of all that, I have another confession, I consume a can of Kona coffee glazed macadamia nuts every single day that I'm there. thumb

Aloooha!

Key Notes smile


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