Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!


SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Modern Piano Moving
Modern Piano Moving
(ad)
Virtual Sheet Music
Download Sheet Music Instantly
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Sheet Music...
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Piano Buyer Spring 2017
(ad)
Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restorations and sales
Who's Online Now
100 registered members (BDW, 7uturu, bcbarnes, ando, aleksivu, Almaviva, 20 invisible), 1,904 guests, and 10 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#1044662 - 04/04/05 11:23 AM Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,091
plays88skeys Offline
3000 Post Club Member
plays88skeys  Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,091
Richmond, VA
Do any of you encounter days when, no matter what you try, you flop? I have them from time to time, and today is one of those times...actually, it's the first time I've had what I'd term a rotten practice in months.

Things committed to memory are gone, fingerings meticulously worked out in the past are stumbling blocks, focus on the score when you have it half memorized seems impossible.

What do you do? Do you chalk it up to a bad day and stop, or do you slog onward, even though everything you try sucks? I'm just wondering if it's a good idea to practice when everything you do undermines confidence and weeks of work.


There are no shortcuts to any place worth going. - Beverly Sills
(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#1044663 - 04/04/05 11:32 AM Re: Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 640
SAS Offline
500 Post Club Member
SAS  Offline
500 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 640
Austin, TX
I had a lesson like that once. Everything I played or did was horrible. I was making mistakes I never make, or hadn't made for weeks. Finally we just stopped and started talking about music theory stuff. Which was quite interesting and worthwhile also, so it wasn't a total loss.

I'm hardly in the category of experienced pianists here, but when I have a day like that, I just chalk it up to a bad day and stop. It's too frustrating to keep playing if everything sucks! Thank goodness this hasn't happened to me very often. At least where I suck more than usual!

I'd be interested though in hearing what other people do when this happens to them.

#1044664 - 04/04/05 12:01 PM Re: Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 723
AdagioM Offline
500 Post Club Member
AdagioM  Offline
500 Post Club Member

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 723
Oregon
Yes!

Stop and come back later when your head is in the game. And it's usually better when you come back; the suckiness magically disappears!

#1044665 - 04/04/05 12:51 PM Re: Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 293
Waterfall Offline
Full Member
Waterfall  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 293
North Carolina
Yep. Chalk it up. Go on a walk. Do something else.

If you do decide to slog onward, then make small goals: focus on a single measure, or a single couple of measures. Something that will be manageable, even if you aren't playing well for the moment.

(ad ) MusicNotes.com
sheet music search
#1044666 - 04/04/05 12:53 PM Re: Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 278
Ermo Offline
Full Member
Ermo  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 278
I'm with AdagioM: stop slogging away at it, and when you come back (which for me would be the next day), somehow miraculously the stuff that was giving you trouble is much improved.

I have always assumed, however, that trying to slog through it is an integral part of the process. In other words, I give my whole practice routine the old college try before hanging it up for the day.


WWEP?
#1044667 - 04/04/05 02:05 PM Re: Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,091
plays88skeys Offline
3000 Post Club Member
plays88skeys  Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,091
Richmond, VA
As suggested, I did stop. I may try again after dinner. Hubby wants to watch the basketball game; I don't.

Here's another question: how many of you can't or won't practice if there is anyone else around to hear your efforts? I usually practice when I'm alone and rarely after Improv gets home from work.

I feel like I've thrown away an opportunity to get in a good practice today, even though I wasn't having much success.

As Scarlett said, tomorrow's another day.


There are no shortcuts to any place worth going. - Beverly Sills
#1044668 - 04/04/05 02:14 PM Re: Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 723
AdagioM Offline
500 Post Club Member
AdagioM  Offline
500 Post Club Member

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 723
Oregon
Quote
Originally posted by plays88skeys:


Here's another question: how many of you can't or won't practice if there is anyone else around to hear your efforts? I usually practice when I'm alone and rarely after Improv gets home from work.

I feel like I've thrown away an opportunity to get in a good practice today, even though I wasn't having much success.

As Scarlett said, tomorrow's another day.
I can practice with family listening; we're all used to hearing each other practice various instruments (guitar, piano, sax). But I don't practice if people other than family are in the house.

Scarlett also said, "As God is my witness, I'll never be hungry again." Oh, wait, that's the pumpkin cookie thread!
laugh

#1044669 - 04/04/05 02:23 PM Re: Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 640
SAS Offline
500 Post Club Member
SAS  Offline
500 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 640
Austin, TX
It's just my husband and I, and I really don't like to practice when he's in the room, although I have a few times. He usually goes in to the bedroom when I'm practicing so he can watch TV in there, or play his trumpet. I've probably mentioned this before on this forum but the piano is in the living room, which is the only TV hooked up to cable. So if he wants to watch something on cable, and I want to practice, we're stuck in there at the same time. He always says he doesn't mind, and I'm sure he doesn't, but I feel kind of funny plunking away when he's watching a movie or something. The ideal thing is for him to be playing his trumpet when I'm practicing, that way he don't bother each other. It probably does both the dog and the cats however!

#1044670 - 04/04/05 02:49 PM Re: Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,269
ChickGrand Offline
3000 Post Club Member
ChickGrand  Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,269
Midwest U.S.
Quote
Originally posted by plays88skeys:
Do any of you encounter days when, no matter what you try, you flop? I have them from time to time, and today is one of those times...
I have those days, too. Those days are totally disconcerting with things memorized and played literally 1000s of times vaporized and non-existent. Once it becomes clear it's truly one of those, I usually write off the whole day, but I have found that if I come back to it hours later, sometimes I can end the day with a good practice even the same day.

#1044671 - 04/04/05 03:09 PM Re: Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 8,483
signa Offline
8000 Post Club Member
signa  Offline
8000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 8,483
Ohio, USA
i guess that everyone would get a bad day like that. in that case, it's better not to force yourself at piano (because it would be useless) rather to walk away or take a break.

#1044672 - 04/04/05 04:15 PM Re: Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 429
princessclara2005 Offline
Full Member
princessclara2005  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 429
Dallas, Texas
Yes, that definitely happens...but life goes on, be cool and do better next day, or if that happens a lot, considering take a 2-3 days break for not practicing.

#1044673 - 04/04/05 06:18 PM Re: Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 624
PattyP Offline
500 Post Club Member
PattyP  Offline
500 Post Club Member

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 624
Texas
I have practice times when nothing goes right. But it's always when I'm tired, like last night and tonight ($%@ daylight savings! help


Patty

A tired dog is a good dog.

Perzina GP-187
Kawai CP209


#1044674 - 04/04/05 07:19 PM Re: Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,288
mikhailoh Offline
4000 Post Club Member
mikhailoh  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,288
Cincinnati
Just heard that Plays88keys has a husband... is now off to throw himself under a piano truck... eek


Michael

====

He is so solemn, detached and uninvolved he makes Mr. Spock look like Hunter S. Thompson at closing time.'
#1044675 - 04/04/05 07:45 PM Re: Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,091
plays88skeys Offline
3000 Post Club Member
plays88skeys  Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,091
Richmond, VA
Hi Michael,

Missed you! Good to see you posting again.

psssst: Save the truckdriver some permanent psychological scars and stay on the sidewalk...besides, I'm probably too old for you... wink


There are no shortcuts to any place worth going. - Beverly Sills
#1044676 - 04/05/05 06:42 AM Re: Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 98
Ratdart Offline
Full Member
Ratdart  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 98
Florida
I think one of these days calls for some Pumpkin Oatmeal cookie things.

#1044677 - 04/05/05 12:33 PM Re: Bad practice - your opinion?  
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 695
tk Offline
500 Post Club Member
tk  Offline
500 Post Club Member

Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 695
Los Angeles County
Agreed. Cookies are definitely in order on days like this!

Quote
Do any of you encounter days when, no matter what you try, you flop?
This happens to me periodically. It is rather demoralizing. I just stop and give up for the day, having learned that slogging on just doesn't work for me, b/c it inevitably makes me more frustrated and leads me to thinking bad thoughts about piano and music!!!

Quote
Here's another question: how many of you can't or won't practice if there is anyone else around to hear your efforts?
As with SAS, it is just my husband and me. Well, we have a dog, too, but she usually trots outside when I start playing... (everybody's a critic these days!). I don't mind playing with my husband is around, though I sometimes feel bad b/c I figure it must be disturbing him. He does have an office, though, and can shut the door, which he sometimes does.


Moderated by  BB Player, casinitaly 

Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
(ad)
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


(ad)
Pianoteq
Grotrian Concert
Royal
for Pianoteq out now
What's Hot!!
Why Do You Play The Piano?
-------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
-------------------
Piano Classified Ads
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Piano Moving Question for a friend...
by lbonini1. 06/23/17 10:15 AM
Why do YouTube commenters hate Lang Lang so much?
by sara elizabeth. 06/23/17 07:33 AM
KAWAI MP7: my piano presets
by Nor. 06/23/17 04:09 AM
The truth about the blues scales.
by Nahum. 06/23/17 02:44 AM
Yet Another ETD thread
by DoelKees. 06/23/17 01:31 AM
(ad)
Sheet Music Plus
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Forum Statistics
Forums44
Topics180,405
Posts2,638,396
Members88,167
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Check It Out!
There's a lot more to Piano World than just the forums.
Check It Out!
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2017 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0