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Do I need a piano bench? #1031736
04/02/07 10:17 PM
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I currently don't have a piano bench for piano. When I want to play, I use a swivel height-adjustable office chair. If I play for a while, I appreciate being able to rest my back on the back rest of my chair. However, I worry that the swivel of the chair plus the fact that it will be in slightly different positions each time I come to play might give my brain a harder time learning the position of keys. This is the only reason I can see for getting a proper piano seat.

Are there any compelling reasons to spent money on a proper piano bench or will any old chair at the right height do?

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Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031737
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Hi monstermunch,

For the most part, any old (armless) chair that's the right height will do. Some people appreciate the support of having a chair with a back, some don't. It's a matter of personal preference. It is important though that it be the right height and the height be consistent.


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Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031738
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Hi monstermunch,
I prefer a bench because it is wider than a piano stool or normal chair and therefore gives me better support and control when working with my body weight (in forte passages etc.) or leaning slightly to the treble section. Plus, its height can be adjusted so I can find the best seating position for me.
Indeed you'll give your brain some unneccessary extra work to do if your chair moves during your playing and your seating position is unstable. Control and evenness might be harder to obtain that way. Whether you want to invest in a bench is a matter of taste - I'd go with C7player - an armless chair of the right height might be fine for you.


"The creative process is nothing but a series of crises."
(Isaac B. Singer)

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Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031739
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My son's girlfriend gave me great seat which also houses all my sheet music and books under the lid! Great


"If your only tool is a hammer, every problem tends to look like a nail!"

Piano: Roland FP-7
Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031740
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Just don't do what I did. When I decided to take up the piano again I went to the store to buy a new bench and instead bought a new piano.

My husband got a fright when I went for a new hub cap the other day. laugh


Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear, Fuzzy Wuzzy had no hair.>>> Herman Munster
Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031741
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Originally posted by loly:
My husband got a fright when I went for a new hub cap the other day. laugh
That's just too funny! I bet he won't be sending you out to buy any doorknobs either!


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Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031742
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there're piano benches, stools and chairs. as long as it has a flat surface (parallel to floor) and sufficient height, it's ok. but you probably don't want it to swivel much. see here:

http://www.concertdesign.com/piano_bench.html#piano_bench

Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031743
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Would people recommend I get a non-swivel chair though or does it really not matter? I reckon it's probably good if your height and position varies slightly each session as you might over-learn the key positions sitting at your piano and when your forced to use another piano and seat you might not cope so well.

My piano is in my study and I use the same seat for the piano and the computer desk. Whenever I get bored with work, I slide across the room on my chair and play piano a little. :-) Takes up less room to just have one chair too.

Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031744
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The standard ht. from the floor to the top
surface of the white keys is 28 to 29 inches.
The standard ht. from the floor to the top
of a solid-type piano bench is about 18 1/2
inches. If you buy almost any acoustic piano with
a solid bench, you would get these hts. Classical
players seem to be more concerned about getting
these standard hts., while stage musicians--who
play using all sorts of folding stands and
benches--don't. Being a classical player mostly,
I've always been strict about getting
these standard hts., but any rock musician
can also play any acoustic piano, and
some classical players like those
expensive, adjustible, concert-type benches
that they adjust to all kinds of hts., so
maybe this isn't something to be too concerned
about.

Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031745
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You can always remove the wheels from the chair.

Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031746
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I also use an office chair instead of a bench.

I find I like the back support, and the feeling when swiveling/leaning for high or low notes.

Now, if it is right or wrong, that's another question alltogether. I can see where I will need to make an adjustment if playing from a bench. But for now, I find it allows for more time at the keyboard than without the support.


"There is nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself." Johann Sebastian Bach/Gyro
Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031747
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I like to sit a bit higher in relation to the keyboard than your bog standard relative bench / key height. But one thing occurs to me.. with a bench you can shift yourself a bit right or left depending on where you are playing on the keyboard.. whereas.. with a chair on castors that might be a bit risky..

Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031748
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When my back is killing me, mad which it does about twice a month, I roll out my swivel, armless, height-adjustable office chair. I bought it about 2 months ago specifically for those times when I need some support for my back. I usually just need to use it for 3-5 days until my back is feeling better.

I don't use it all the time; but it is a life-saver (back-saver)! smile I haven't noticed any huge difference between sitting on the bench versus the chair. Maybe I can reach a bit further sitting on the bench, but I have few pieces that call for major reaches either up or down the keyboard.

An added bonus using the chair: When you play a piece just "right," you can give yourself a twirl to celebrate. It also helps to shout a semi-loud "Yippee." Goes well with the whirling. laugh


JMO,
Kathleen


After playing Chopin, I feel as if I had been weeping over sins that I had never committed, and mourning over tragedies that were not my own." Oscar Wilde, 1891
Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031749
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We have a plain wooden bench that came with the piano, and it hurts my bum. So I put one of the fancy Tempurpedic pillows on there that we bought with our new bed but never ended up using. Looks awful. Works like a charm.

Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031750
04/25/07 10:03 PM
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You may want to look at the "Concert Design" benches from concertdesign.com for some ideas. I realize that the piano bench they offer is kind of pricy, but they have an excellent reputation, especially since they have worked with major orchestras across the country. Don't let price dictate your choice especially if comfort is of importance.


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Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031751
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i think the best option for you at this time would be to buy a high seated toilet with a padded seat that way you dont have an excuse to get up while practicing thumb and the padded seat will relax your bum laugh

seriously just go out and buy a piano bench and get it over with and quit pondering.... laugh


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Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031752
04/26/07 04:31 AM
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Quote
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Originally posted by loly:
[b] My husband got a fright when I went for a new hub cap the other day. laugh
That's just too funny! I bet he won't be sending you out to buy any doorknobs either! [/b]
Keep her away from the stock market, too!

Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031753
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if you've been following Piano Trucker's new/historic Steinway adventure on the piano forum, HE has an interesting seat: a small piano "chair." That looks kind of cool.


I was looking at sheet music in a store last week and they had drummer's thrones in there. I thought it would make an interesting seat because I could adjust the height pretty much infinitely, and the swiveling looked fun.

I just wouldn't use it for playing any Rach. - you'd probably throw out your back!


Inspiration is the act of pulling a chair up to the writing desk.
Pramberger JP-185 (a 6'1" mahogany-red Grand)+ Glenn Gould-ish piano chair (no cushion)
Re: Do I need a piano bench? #1031754
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No, what you need is a piano recliner. That's what I have.


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