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Fingering Le Onde #1026870
04/14/08 10:58 AM
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I know a lot of people on this forum play Le Onde by Einaudi, so I'll ask this as a public question rather than PMs to those I've discussed it with.

For the left hand most measures have an arpeggio comprised of either 2 eighths and a half (2 quavers and a minim for you Brits) or 5 eighths. When you have 5 eighths which fingers do you use to play the last 2?

I learned it playing the last 2 notes with 3 and 2 to avoid a thumb on black.

Example:
D/5 A/2 D/1 E/3 F#/2

But since the arps often repeat, it might have been better to use 2 and 1 for the last 2 notes so that your hand is in a better position to play the next one.

That would be:
D/5 A/2 D/1 E/2 F#/1

You could do the same thing with the A and G arpeggios and always be in a position to "reach" the next arp instead of jump to it.

If you play this piece, how are you doing them, and is it worth changing? I already have a month invested in the piece.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Fingering Le Onde #1026871
04/14/08 12:39 PM
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I think I end with 3 and 2 as well, but I'm not positive without a keyboard to play on. (My memory for fingering has been wrong before! laugh ) I'll take a look this evening and let you know.

Re: Fingering Le Onde #1026872
04/14/08 01:38 PM
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For my fingers, ending with 2-1 is incredibly awkward.

I would use 3-2.


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Re: Fingering Le Onde #1026873
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Well, I sure didn't expect to see this fingering:

SmokyJoe\'s Version

I was using this video for tempo and expression, but now that I look more closely, he's using 1,2 (not 2,1). That means he's sliding the thumb to the right for the fourth note then crossing over to use 2 on the fifth. I will definitely NOT do that.

After messing with 2,1 for a while this morning I think I don't see enough difference to change. 2,1 seems good when playing slowly because you can feel for the start of the new arp, but at speed you still have to jump to get there in time.

I'm still curious what anyone else is doing.

Re: Fingering Le Onde #1026874
04/14/08 06:25 PM
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Okay, I got home with my piano. The six note arpeggios in the first line I play with both hands (first 3 notes in LH, second three in right). The five note arpeggios I play 5-2-1-3-2. The 6-note arpeggios in measures 18-19 (the D-A-D-E-F#-D ones) I play 5-2-1-3-2 in the left hand and then hit the next D with my right hand thumb. But the six-note arpeggio in measure 32 I play 5-2-1-3-2-1, all in the left hand.

In short, I follow the convention that if the note is written on the treble staff, I play it with my right hand.

Re: Fingering Le Onde #1026875
04/14/08 07:09 PM
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Monica,
That's exactly what I was doing before my trip down the dark path of 5-2-1-2-1 for the LH. I'm back on the sunny side now, and hopefully haven't dug any brain trenches I'll stumble into later.

Still don't know if I'll have it ready for the next recital, but I'm definitely making progress.

Thanks for your help!! smile

Re: Fingering Le Onde #1026876
04/14/08 07:23 PM
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bluekeys,

Monica's fingering is the same fingering I had used as well

Good luck with the piece. It's quite beautiful


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