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#1021517 11/09/04 11:50 AM
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My goal is to be able to accompany my flute students on piano. My second goal is simply to play for myself.

What goal are you all striving for?

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My goal is to have a repertoire that I can play from memory of 20+ pieces of music that I really enjoy. My second goal is to be able to play simple music by sight.

I'm 1/20th of the way toward my first goal since I have Silent Night down pat. smile Although I do need to go back and learn the introduction and I'd like to learn a couple other versions so I can play for more than a minute and still have it be interesting.

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At my age, my goal is to not fall off the piano bench.

Seriously, though, I'd like to be able to accompany a school chorus or play in a variety-type band. Not necessarily doing solos or anything particularly complicated (*that* will never happen), but to be able to do chords/bass lines.


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I'd like to be able to sight-play a typical pop piece (both full sheet music & lead sheets) and get to a point where it takes less than it currently does to play a moderately difficult piano solo (of any style).

A little improvisation skill would be nice as well.

Rodney

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I want to be good enough to play in restaurants and clubs when I retire.. I don't want to tell jokes.. don't even want a microphone. (I WOULD, however, consider having a fine chanteuse to accompany.. laugh laugh laugh )

Just want to play what I like.. Gershwin, standards, a little jazz and a few pop tunes.. maybe even a little broadway.. and I will always sneak in some classical! I don'tparticularly care if anyone even listens.. I'll know if I'm good or not.


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There are a few pieces I would like to have as part of a repertoire that I will not even attempt until I've played for many years. These would include some Chopin, Schumann, and many other romantic composers. I usually like to set short and long term goals. My short term goals are to master some intermediate pieces and to start playing "real" pieces instead of arrangements. My long term goals are to play and sight read well enough to play pop and most intermediate classical pieces with relative ease. Maybe when I retire in 20 years I'll be good enough to play in front of an audience.
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#1021523 11/09/04 07:24 PM
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"and to start playing "real" pieces instead of arrangements"
You're well on your way with that Scarlatti piece! wink

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My wife took up the cello a couple of years ago (at the age of 41!) and my goal is to accompany her so that I can share her interest in making music.

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my goal is to play some Beethoven sonatas and some Bach fugues, which of course would take a long time.

#1021526 11/09/04 08:50 PM
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Hi Signa

I've been reading quite a no. of yr posts and looks like you are more than a beginner to me perhaps intermediate or higher. May I know how long hv u first started learning piano ?

I took lessons barely for 2 weeks and my short term goal is .... relax and able to position my fingers properly ... long term goal >>> INFINITE smile


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I eventually want to retire to one of the more remote little Caribbean islands and run a little open air bar and grill under a thatched roof with a dance floor out under the stars and play well enough to amuse the guests and keep them coming back, dancing, singing along, or inspired to play themselves, i.e., an endless cocktail party to the grave. :t:

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my goal is to never run out of goals...

its the journey that counts, not the last stop.


"I don't know much about classical music. For years I thought the Goldberg Variations were something Mr. and Mrs. Goldberg did on their wedding night." Woody Allen
#1021529 11/10/04 03:30 AM
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My Goals as of now consist of bassically being able to learn theory so i can apply my own ideas on the piano.

For now since im starting out that just means learning as many chords as possible. And diving into chord theory..

Being a Bassist first and foremost i would like to be able to lay down melodies and later but down some funky bass tracks to support em'

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When I started learning 8 months ago, my goal was to be able to sight read & play well enough to play church hymns on Sunday. After several months of belonging to this forum, I have a new appreciation for classical music. While I still want to play hymns, I am looking forward to playing classical pieces a well...Moonlight Sonata, Canon, Fur Elise, Chopin Nocturn Op 9-2, etc. Who woulda thunk it? smile


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I, too, originally set out to be good enough to play hymns for the congregation on Sunday and possibly practice with and accompany our church choir. That will be a problem until I get my nerve up to play in front of actual people without passing out, throwing up or saying really bad things when I miss a note...

I would also love to sight-read out of all the Reader's Digest songbooks for nursing and retirement homes, social gatherings and other captive audiences. Liz

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I think one of my problems with setting goals is not knowing if they're realistic. Then, if I don't meet them, I become frustrated. It would be helpful for me, and possibly for others, for people posting on this thread to give a brief background (e.g., length of time playing piano or other instruments, methods used, typical practice schedule) followed by how they've progressed and what goals they've met or haven't met. Then we newbies could have a benchmark against which to make our goals.


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#1021533 11/10/04 08:16 AM
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Mark, I took piano in the fourth grade and tried again in high school, but basically I am starting over. I play the flute and have mastered the treble clef, but I struggle beyond belief with bass clef! I am most certainly a beginner, although I do need to learn the basics of reading music, just the bass clef. I struggle with my hands doing two different things and with reading more than one note at a time. My goal of accompanying flute students is definitely a long term goal! My short term goal is probably just not to give up! smile

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I would like to learn 10 to 20 pieces by memory..I'd like to sit and play without sheet music or mistakes.

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Mark, you state very clearly why many of us do not clearly state our goals. A true goal is challenging, realistic/acheivable, desirable, and has a fixed deadline. Our fear in stating a goal in such a manner is that we'll have to adjust one or more of the criteria and we associate that adjustment with failure.

After all, if we have to adjust the deadline, then we've "failed", then it has to be adjusted again which feels like just another failure. We've all done this early in life, which conditions us to avoid setting deadlines for our goals. That's all fine and dandy for our self esteem, but it hinders our ability to reach our potential because we don't challenge ourselves enough.

The trick is to set short term goals that lead to mid-level goals, that lead to long-term goals.

My long term goal is to have a repertoire of at least 20 pieces. As a step toward that goal, I've set my current mid-level goal as the pieces I listed in the currently playing thread. My deadline for my current pieces is to have all except possibly the complete Fur Elise ready by Christmas.

For short term, I'm focusing on specific measures and phrases on a daily basis. I also try to make sure I get in at least one sight-read song daily.

I've been playing for about a year. Most of that year was spent with the Alfred's adult method course and an old-school teacher who had me digging into Hanon. This month I dropped the Hanon, Alfred's, and the teacher and I'm focusing on the pieces that I've selected to be the start of my repertoire.

My practice schedule is broken up into 20 minute sessions with a deliberate goal for each. About half-way through the session, I can tell if the goal was too big. For example, on the Scarlatti piece I'm working on, I might think I can get through four bars in a session. But if halfway through the session, I'm still looking at the score or keyboard for some of the notes, then I cut the section in half to finish up the session with a measure or two definitely mastered.

While modifying my goal like that *might* seem like failure to some; I look at it as ensuring that I'm making steady progress. If I had kept at the entire four bars, I *might* have been able to nail all four in the next session, but I *know* I'll be able to if I immediately reduce the scope in the first session to just the first two bars.

One thing that is vitally important is consistent practice. Everything I read, from Cooke's empowering "Playing the Piano for Pleasure" to Bernhard's enlightening essays over on the Piano Forum site, hammer's home the necessity of having consistent daily practice.

The reason I've selected four pieces is that I know I can scrape together 4 sessions of 20 minutes at some point during the day. Even on my busiest days. If I can squeak in additional sessions, then I work on additional measures of one of my pieces or I'll read one of my books, or I'll sight-read another song or two.

This post is too long and I've probably blathered on too much, but I hope you can pick something useful out of it. I highly recommend reading Bernhard's posts if you want an epiphany.

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Chickgrand.. I will sail my boat to your island and play on your off nights..


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