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#1000800 - 06/12/08 01:04 PM a new member
shalablab Offline
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Registered: 06/12/08
Posts: 16
Loc: Egypt
I am a new member and my name is shalablab,and i would like to be informed if i can someday play pieces for franz liszt according to my age(28)?

i now can play lots of mozart sonates and some beethoven's pieces not sonates. my dream is to play the very technical and defficult pieces of Frans liszt.
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#1000801 - 06/12/08 01:40 PM Re: a new member
theRecluse Offline
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Registered: 03/10/08
Posts: 57
Loc: Midlands, UK
Hi Shalablab,
Welcome to the forums.

I'm sure you'll hear this a lot: the average age of members on this forum is Forty-something; with many members starting piano after their fiftieth birthday... So your age doesn't really matter.

Definitely. With practice, you'll be able to play any piece.
“Most people live and die with their music still unplayed. They never dare to try.” -Mary Kay Ash.

#1000802 - 06/12/08 02:10 PM Re: a new member
YD Offline
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 590
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
Welcome to the forum!

First of all, I don't see any problem for anybody playing some Liszt pieces.

A warning is due here, however. when you say "technical," do you specifically mean the virtuoso Liszt pieces, like Transcendental or other concert Etudes, or do you imply that most Liszt's pieces are technically challenging? If you mean the former, then it requires significant dedication on your part, and will probably take you years to get there. If you mean the latter, however, you can probably (given that you play at an intermediate level already) start learning some of them now (a good place to start would be Consolation #3, or easier version of Liszt's transcription of Schubert's Serenade).

At 28 you definitely have enough time to get to pretty much any level of pianism save for Carnegie Hall virtuosity, and, who know, maybe even that \:\)

Do a search on this board for Liszt and a whole bunch of advice will come up. Of course, if you have specific questions, feel free to ask :-)

#1000803 - 06/12/08 02:22 PM Re: a new member
Rosanna Offline
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Registered: 06/08/07
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Shalablab, Welcome!

YD is a great pianist so I would totally trust what he says about Liszt!

#1000804 - 06/12/08 02:23 PM Re: a new member
shalablab Offline
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Registered: 06/12/08
Posts: 16
Loc: Egypt
thanks a lot for all encouraging, in our concervatory institute, all teachers and student discouraged me by saying that reaching the hight level of playing piano needs to start learning piano at very early age as 7 or 8 years old, otherwise i cannot reach the aimed level.

i mean playing the virtuoso Liszt pieces, like Transcendental etudes, i have some videos for the trancscendental etudes and i could see how defficult and challenging they are.
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#1000805 - 06/12/08 04:47 PM Re: a new member
YD Offline
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Posts: 590
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
Rosanna: thanx for the "great pianist" remark; I love you too (virtually speaking ;\) )


The transcendental etudes vary considerably in the level of difficulty. There are some that are not much different in level of needed virtuosity from Chopin etudes, most notably, TE1, TE3 and TE6. The most difficult ones are TE4, TE5 and TE12, the rest falls in the middle.

From personal experience...

Relevant background info: Despite flattering Rosanna's comment (thanx again!), my talent is quite mediocre (or I would have chosen a pianist career - trust me, I really wanted that when I was about 16); you may be way more talented. On the other hand, I have had considerable training (7 years of formal music school), though restarted piano only 2 years ago after a 12 year gap. Here are my observations re: Liszt's Transcendental Etudes:

TE1 is about as difficult as easier Chopin's etudes (mostly because it does not require much endurance, at under 1 minute); it was relatively easy for me (no Carnegie Hall worthy performances though).

TE6 is a bit more difficult; I've toyed with some of the passages there, but postponed learning it in favor of Chopin's 25/12, which I consider to be about the same in difficulty (they are also about similar technique).

I've also toyed with TE12. This beast of an etude is in a class of itself. Right now I completely fail to achieve anything resembling its proper sound, and I suspect that I may fail completely even after spending years on it. This is the first piano piece that I cannot possibly play on a heavy keyboard (which I generally prefer), and it makes me seriously consider purchasing a piano with lighter and shallower keys (like some of the Playel pianos).

As usual, all disclaimers apply, see my signature \:\)

#1000806 - 06/13/08 01:22 AM Re: a new member
Triryche Offline
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Registered: 08/11/06
Posts: 1456
Loc: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Welcome to the forums shalablab!!


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