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Digital Pianos - Electronic Pianos - Synths & Keyboards
23 minutes ago
Originally Posted by MacMacMac
The current model sells. It has no competition.

I'm inclined to agree with you Mac, but trying telling that to this guy:

Originally Posted by MacMacMac
I'm beginning to think that the VPC's day has come and gone.


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Adult Beginners Forum
27 minutes ago
My favorite:

"Music is what feelings sound like". ~Author Unknown
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Digital Pianos - Electronic Pianos - Synths & Keyboards
47 minutes ago
Originally Posted by Jethro
Kawai James, is it my imagination or are the black keys on the VPC1 ever so slightly less wide than on an acoustic piano? If they aren't I would have to say if feels that way to me. Maybe it's the rough texture on the key top that's throwing me off.

I'm afraid I don't know. I don't believe this topic has been queried in the past, however.

Kind regards,
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FAQ - Piano Forum
49 minutes ago
Hi All,

I would need your advice on the following points. I'd like to buy a piano for my spouse, most oriented toward jazz than classical music. She quite likes the Bosendorfer sound, which triggered my search for such an instrument. At this moment, I managed to find (for about the same price, the 130 a tad cheaper though) either a New upright Bosendorfer 130 or a Used Bosendorfer 200, 1997 in excellent condition [40k eur ~ 45k usd].

1. What would you recommend between the two ? Does this upright really sound "like a grand" ?
2. I never came across a Steingraeber and sohne, but read very good reviews on it. Is it comparable to the Bosendorfer ?

ps : 45k usd is the max budget we can afford.

Thank you,
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Piano Forum
1 hour ago
Hi there. Your first step is to engage the services of an RPT (Registered Piano Technician), who can give you an accurate appraisal of its condition. Depending on how well it has been maintained, it might only need a little work or it might be so decrepit that it's not worth the expense. If you post a picture, some of the experts here might be able to tell you a little more.
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Pianist Corner
1 hour ago
Originally Posted by Nantes

Your native language tends to seem like the simplest and easiest in the world, because you have no problems with it and it's often the only one you know smile It's only when you're exposed to a language constructed from the ground up to be much simpler (e.g. Esperanto) that you realize how unnecessarily complex your language really is.

I disagree that traditional notation is inferior.

All natural languages are easy as native languages BTW. They couldn't exist otherwise.

Reading is an acquired skill, in language or music. Traditional notation is a very simple and efficient way to represent tonal music, and doesn't have to deal with "senseless" difficulties associated with written language, such as English spelling peculiarities. OTOH there's nothing in traditional notation that is unreasonable or superfluous. You might not like it, but for me it's much more efficient to read that klavar. It tells me a great deal about the music before I even begin to play it.
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Pianist Corner
1 hour ago
Hi BruceD!

Thank you for your reply! Your replies have been very insightful in the past and I appreciate the time. To answer your question, there are many people on the forums here that are very knowledgable in these aspects and I have seen you in quite a few of the ranking threads helping. Due to this, those ranking/difficulty lists have proven to be extremely helpful to me and several friends that have had difficulty in choosing repertoire. I thought it would be a fantastic idea to do on my own and it turned out to be far more challenging than I had originally thought, so I was wondering if someone already had one. Hopefully, that wasn't all redundant!

Thank you again!
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Adult Beginners Forum
1 hour ago
Good luck with the piano Jusca!
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Pianist Corner
1 hour ago
Originally Posted by johnstaf
I remember being quite surprised at how gentle Prokofiev appeared to be when I first saw him on film. Somehow I expected his manner to resemble that of a hissing, seething skull. grin

All the hissing and seething is expressed in his music! So he has no need to express it in his other behaviour as well. smile
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Digital Pianos - Electronic Pianos - Synths & Keyboards
1 hour ago
Thank you for all the input thus far. I was able to play a Yamaha P 515 today and my first impressions were mostly good.

The P 515 I played was on the wall, so it was slanted slightly downwards so I couldn't have my hands parallel to the ground. Thus, my first impressions may be skewed a little bit because of this since the weight of my hands weren't going straight down. The piano was still playable, although it wasn't exactly comfortable. The key action and feel had a noticeable difference to the cheaper models. I agree there's an initial weight/resistance when pressing the key which is only slightly a concern to me. Grand piano action does not have this initial resistance. However, after this initial point, I do think the action is medium overall. Also, I feel it's something that I can get used to. When playing fast scales with more white keys, I did notice the keys were a bit sluggish compared to the grand. It was likely a mix of the key not going up fast enough and passing the initial resistance point. I think my expectations may be too high. I do not think this is a deal breaker for me as it still felt great to play on overall.

I will also say that this action is far superior from any cheaper Yamaha piano. The wood gives it a lighter feel, and any plastic key felt like a toy. I also like the synthetic black keys as it prevented my fingers from feeling "sticky". I felt I had better control on these keys.

The CFX sound and Bosendorfer are really great. I played a little bit with the Piano Room which allowed me to change the "sensitivity" of the keys. I think the Soft 1 option really hit the spot.

I could not tell if the keys were graded, as in heavier on the left and and lighter to the right. Perhaps this means they aren't graded. Maybe someone could give me input on this.

Overall, I would purchase this if I didn't find the Kawai ES8 to my liking. This keyboard will simply be for lesson planning, the light practice at night, and possibly online lessons. Most of my practice and lessons are on the grand piano I have. Thanks to Kawai James, he suggested that I play Kawai pianos that have the RHIII action, so I may do this tomorrow and decide then.

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Piano Forum
2 hours ago
maybe you could bring a mobile recording rig and actually record the pianos in question. This might make the choice more clear.
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Piano Forum
2 hours ago
That depends on the condition of the older higher quality piano. At 50-60 years old many or even most pianos will require a lot of costly work to put them in playable or excellent condition. This could add tens of thousands of dollars extra to the "cost" of the piano. If a full rebuild is needed it could cost even 40K so everything depends on the condition of the older piano.
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Digital Pianos - Electronic Pianos - Synths & Keyboards
2 hours ago
Nice playing, bet that would sound good on pretty much any VST. :P
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Adult Beginners Forum
2 hours ago
Originally Posted by Handyman
My piece this month will illuminate (if not celebrate) the deepest, darkest aspects of sexual dominance and unbridled compulsion...and will not be a figment or phantom of the imagination...

But will it be nuanced? Authentic? Gritty?

Anyway, I'm glad to hear you are into jazz now.

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Piano Forum
2 hours ago
I have been asked, by PM, to explain my reference to Chesterfield.

Chesterfield is a small town in Derbyshire, England. It is famous for the spire on the church there:


Apparently some confusion has arisen as there is a "stencil" town called Chesterfield in one of our colonies. I was referring to the original, not the ersatz.
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Pianist Corner
3 hours ago
I'm working on all the Chopin waltzes and nocturnes.

I think most of the waltzes have too many repeats or not enough variation among sections thus I "cut the fat off" lol

measures 90 to 97 I used as the introduction (trumpets sounding arrival)
2 to 7 (main theme)
7 and 26 (interesting connection between these 2 measures since it abruptly cuts off the main theme)
26 to 33 (2nd section)
42 to 45 (3rd section)
66 to 73 (4th section)
98 to 105 (main theme conclusion)

The patterns are similar to a Shakespearean sonnet.
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Digital Pianos - Electronic Pianos - Synths & Keyboards
3 hours ago
ah very good.
thank you very much. smile
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Pianist Corner
3 hours ago
Of course an opinion means nothing when it comes to surveys, but I'm guessing that the recording quality will overshadow any difference in performance characteristics that have changed over the years. Also, individual pianistic style will predominate an era that only includes audio-recorded history. If you could hear a performance of Bach, say, from 1700 then I'm sure pianistic style could be better correlated to era.
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Pianist Corner
4 hours ago
Originally Posted by MikeN
Originally Posted by anamnesis

The reason people "tire" out is that they are stuck in certain neuromuscular, movement patterns that they can't get out of and end up fighting with compensatory movements. These patterns also happen to desensitize you to even "noticing" all those subtle torso adjustments and their necessity by using a strategy of over-stabilization in a single sagittal plane at the cost of movement in frontal and transverse planes.

On boy do those movements take a lot of time and dedication to untrain. I've spent the last 2-3 years working on the near constant tendency of my left hand toward ulner deviation. Finally, I think I have it pretty much licked. It took a lot of effort though. Unfortunately, more than most pianist I've met seem to be willing to invest if they even happen to be sensitive to the issue.

The reasons why this process can be difficult is highlighted by this quote from by Shirley Saharmann:

"Faulty training only accentuates the muscular and neurological contributions to habitual imbalance. Most often the faulty movement patterns are an exaggeration in one direction of a limitation in another direction."

The underlying implication here is that you have to get people back into a more "limited" state first before they can retrain the proper coordination. This has its own set of difficulties. But of course it's all going to be for naught if you don't find the correct coordination because you'll just end up going back to the faulty movement. I'd also like to emphasize the word "direction" in the above quote.

Translating this into more piano friendly terms, people will first need to identify (easier said than done) and give up all the mechanisms and strategies they are using for "accuracy" or even "expression" before they can even begin to replace it. Most pianists will refuse to do this because removing all traces of compensation requires returning to a state where they'll question how one can possibly even play at all with any semblance of control. One's skill at doing this entire process correlates with how well one can essentially re-write muscle memory. Again, a respect for "direction" is critical to doing this. More time spent on that word (as well as related words such as "orientation" and "timing") and less on body parts would probably do the piano community a world of good.
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Members Recordings - Pianist Corner
4 hours ago
Going along with Marc_C's suggestion. I think it would help, when you re-record this, if you make the second and third beats in the left hand softer. You're playing all the left hand beats with equal volume and they do, as Mark wrote, drown out the right hand. Moreover, you could give more shape and direction to the piece if you worked on the dynamics of the left hand: not just softer, but with more shape.

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Piano Tuner-Technicians Forum
4 hours ago
Ill get my scissors out and try that next time.

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Piano Tuner-Technicians Forum
4 hours ago
You could of course do a combination too such as when using a sciortino insta-coiler. Pound it in most of the way and then wind the coil on in place, then pound to proper height.

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Themed Recital Sub-Forum
4 hours ago
To sign up to the Nordic Themed Recital, hit the quote button of the most recent post with the list in this thread, remove the quote in brackets at the beginning and end, and write the composer, title and your forum name

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1) Palmgren – Illusion op. 1 nr 2 – outo
2) Palmgren – Kevätyö – Tyrone Slothrop
3) Grieg – Arietta – qwerty53
4) Grieg – Holberg Prelude – Valencia
5) Harald Saeverud – Slatter og Stev Fra Siljustol, Suite 2, Op 22 – Tim Adrianson
6) Einojuhani Rautavaara – Piano Sonata #1 (Christ and the Fisherman) – Tim Adrianson
7) Dag Wiren – Sonatin – Tim Adrianson
8) Carl Nielsen – Three Pieces, Op 59 – Tim Adrianson
9) Grieg – Ballade op. 24 – justyna_ewa
10) Grieg – Watchman's Song Op. 12 No. 3 – Keselo
11) Oskar Merikanto – Summer Garden Idyll op 16 no 2 – [Pianoperformance]
12) Grieg – Wedding Day at Troldhaugen – Pover
13) Grieg – Prancing Elves Op. 12 No. 4 – Chrispy
14) Grieg – Notturno Op 54 No 4 – Sam S
15) Hannikainen – Gavotte op 25 nr 2 – outo
16) Oskar Merikanto – Valse lente, Op. 33 – Pianist685 (Constantin)
17) Andersson/Ulvaeus – The winner takes it all – Pianist685 (Constantin)
18) Takacs – Ballad of the Bad Knight – Keselo
19) Takacs – Return of the Herd – Keselo
20) Leifs – Isländisches Praeludium: Ísland farsaelda frón – Tyrone Slothrop
21) Grieg – In the Hall of the Mountain King (duet arrangement) – Animisha & Tyrone Slothrop
22) Peterson-Berger - Hälsning (From Frösöblomster 1, Op.16) - Ganddalf
23) Grieg - Brudefølget drar forbi (Op.19 no.2) - Ganddalf
24) Peterson-Berger - Going to Church (Op. 16, No. 6) - bSharp(C)yclist
25) Sibelius -- Romance, Op 24, #9 -- Tim Adrianson
26) Sibelius - Nocturne Op. 51 No. 3 - noobpianist90
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Adult Beginners Forum
5 hours ago
Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
Hello All,

Many already know that I studied music at the college level before entering the piano industry. You might not know that I was exposed to the Dorothy Taubman Approach well before it was as well publicized as it is today.

My alma mater (Temple University in Philadelphia) is offering a one week seminar on the Taubman Approach with a variety of professors and teachers from around the US. If you have always wondered about Dorothy Taubman and what it is all about, this could be a terrific way to get exposure to something that may be different from your present piano experience. This approach is especially good for any pianist who may experience discomfort or pain while playing.

Here is a link: http://taubmanseminar.com/

And just for fun, a video on what it has done for one pianist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5SfUas9mz0

I have no direct affiliation with this program or the Taubman Approach in general, but I do donate to support this particular program.


It was fascinating watching the video and hearing how the Taubman approach helped her.
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Adult Beginners Forum
6 hours ago
Originally Posted by Chrispy
Originally Posted by Qwerty53
No. 107 has finally arrived in today's mail, here in the Pacific Northwest! Yay! No sign yet of No. 106, the issue promised when I subscribed via ExpressMag waaay back in January, but I'm happy to hold the magazine in my hands. I hope I am the last one and everybody else has received their issues.

I guess it was time for the PNW to get theirs, mine arrived today as well!

Not only PNW. I got my issue in Washington DC today also from Express Mag.
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